Jeevo wrote Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:56 pm:Just say no to Brady. We're not on the precipice of a title so let's find our next guy and not a short term bridge guy.

The problem is with the signings on Offense we are in their weird situation where we aren’t in a rebuild either.

I’m not sure we can go bridge or that Davis will go for it.

Just say no to Brady. We're not on the precipice of a title so let's find our next guy and not a short term bridge guy.

My position is (and this won't change)

Raiders defense needs a CB1 and a vet FS. Give them those 2 guys and the rest of the defense can be filled in to yield an average defense in 2023.

Problem is - where do you get a CB1 (elite) and a vet FS (elite)? They don't grow on trees and you can't get them in FA.

Give the DC another season. Please…

Much more than that is needed. Desperately need 2 corners, backers and interior line. Another edge rusher is needed also but you can only do so much in a draft.

I wouldn’t even address anything on O until mid to late rounds and only on the line.

Attyla wrote Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:47 am:Jesus.....

You can’t stand the truth can you
Let’s hear it Maxx doesn’t know anything you know more!

This is what happens when you play losing football. No kidding. Davis has nobody to blame but himself for this. He moved the team to a city that caters to visitors and he hired Gruden and McDaniels. He really needs to look in the mirror and accept he created this entire mess and as long as he keeps hiring the wrong people to run his team he better get used to a friendly home stadium situation. The Knights don't have this problem but then again they actually win games and have been pretty successful.

Wow. Nobody could have seen that moving the team for the third time and leaving behind tons of loyal born-and-raised fans in favor of a city of all tourists and “here today-gone tomorrow” residents could result in this.

https://www.raidersbeat.com/reports-says-mark-davis-is-embarrassed-by-the-friendly-home-that-allegiant-stadium-is-becoming-for-opposing-fans/

Thanks for the heads up!

It’s official…canceling dinner plan with the wife

Don’t give a shit if we win or lose because this kid has me amped to watch Raider football again that I haven’t had in what seems like forever.

Just the thought of him duplicating, - or even coming close to the last game performance leaves a goo patch on me that I’ll never be able to get out!!

I’m fukn jacked!!! Dude I have to record it, Mrs Willmark's birthday om Saturday so I need to avoid all media until I watch it.

I sure hope Stidham looks good again - it will have a major impact on my offseason happiness. Offseason happiness is key when you're a Raider fan.

I know we didn't win much, but anything less than a SuperBowl means nothing anyhow.

I agree that this was likely never a SuperBowl team with or without Derek and we only missed our shot at 9 of those under Derek. We missed on the last over 30 though before him.

I don't regret that he was the QB that was here during that time, and I honestly keep trying to compare it to Schroeder who to me felt like he played forever also. This was rosy compared to the years of watching Schroeder.

The reality simply is that Derek needs too much around him. I think he hit a legitimate 11-13 QB rank in his time. That is an amazing accomplishment.

If he finds that magic system and magic coach and wins it all - Awesome. It simply is not here. For his cost, he would need to have played like a top 10 QB this year and prove that he is clutch in late season playoff implication level and cold weather games. Instead he fell to QB 18 or so and choked over 4 playoff hunt games and the worst when it was cold.

McDaniels is not truly the reason why he is gone imo. You can blame Mahommes, Allen, Jackson, and Burrows. The AFC is nuts and we have to get closer than Carr if we want our names in the hat. We are not a 40 million dollar warm weather QB away. We also have to realize that 3 of those QBs play in outdoor freezing stadiums in January.

It is business.

I thank Carr for his time and will always look back somewhat fondly honestly. I hated some of his flaws, but overall it could have been much worse. Like Ferrel, too much was asked of him.

It was the TebowMania level of fandom I hated. The lack of any accountability on Derek by his helicopter moms. That was the worst Raider experience I have, but it was not Carr's fault for that overall and I learned a ton debating with them.

Good luck Derek, once a Raider always a Raider. You earned your Shield and thank you. Jeremy, I usually don't always read long posts in their entirety, but yours was exceptional from the 1st to last sentence. WELL DONE!!!!!!

I am confident that thread won't end well but I appreciate OP for creating it.

Bs, are you kidding me? 500 yards against the league's best D in his first start is whatever the highest grade is.

So carr is not going to help in practice or help game plan, or be there for his teammates... to not be a distraction? But I thought he "cares SO much"?
This is exactly what I would expect of him. This is why no one bought in to his fake ass persona. I would hope he would be there for his teammates and not make this all about him, but it is and always has been, all about him If he's such a phony, why would his teammates want him around? if he was too stupid to learn the playbook, what possible good could he be helping to gameplan? You are letting your giddiness at Carr being gone cloud your thinking

Rainman56 wrote Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:40 pm:Yeah they benched Carr to please the fans LMAO Just get a QB that actually has a pair and plays to win at all costs and it's an upgrade imo........

I like the be careful what you wish for part. Who’s going to be the next player to blame?

Wow this is so spot on! From an NFL Executive

“Raiders fans are sold a bill of goods by their team of Just Win Baby. It is the franchise’s fault. Don’t blame your fans for being pissed that you’re losing, blame the organization that sells that and doesn’t live by it. The team has hardly every had a defense for the kid (Carr) yet it is always his fault.

Be careful what you wish for. There are guys better than Derek Carr, no question. But that isn’t an extensive list, and those guys don’t come available all the time. Mark Davis gave Josh McDaniels a mulligan in year one, he won’t get that in year two. McDaniels and Ziegler aren’t stupid, it is hard but not impossible to get better than Derek, but you can’t jump to just please fans, or next year you are done. And there won’t be a second chance for Ziegler, or a third chance for McDaniels, and they know that.”

What could go wrong, lol.

https://twitter.com/RaiderPosts/status/ ... UgeBQ&s=19

Twoutrally wrote Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:05 pm:This is unreal he played poorly in a -11 degree windy day on the road in Pittsburgh!

Funny how the first-year rookie (Pickett) played in the same -11 degrees and winds, but completed passes the ninth-year rookie (Carr) could not.

It will be interesting to see if Davonte Adams and Josh Jacobs want to stay with the Raiders, they already know the head coach is a clown.

...but when the dust settles, the focus will be entirely on McDaniels next season.

So, for his sake, he better get this right. Agree 100%.

If McD stinks up the joint, then we'll all want him gone. We'll hope for the best, but be glad to see him gone if the team falls on its face, and that's as it should be.

What I can guarantee there won't be are McDaniel fanatics.

obviously Jacobs will be the focus going forward so I expect a lot of loading the box. But how will Jacobs respond is the question. He has run hard all year so I expect more of the same.

Stidham is not Carr, so the offense will change for the air attack. Are we opening things up now? We got the same weapons, so it will be interesting to see how everyone responds to the news. Will they shut down or release the Kracken.

All I know is I will be watching with renewed interest this weekend.

If that's the case then it has to be for $5-8 million and not a penny more. While STILL drafting a QB.

But I am convinced that Carr will retire this offseason. No one will want to pay a below average QB elite money and I don't think he will take a cut in pay. No, Carr will retire from the NFL this offseason and continue fleecing people's money on Sundays as some weird evangelist.

Wow, it's the smart move but still wasn't prepared for it to happen.

Carr has been stinking it up for some time now. You do not wait till your playoff aspirations are over and THEN decide...oh I better light a fire under Carr to see what might happen. Unless of course, Josh is an idiot. but he did imply several positions. And the vote is not yet in on whether Josh is an idiot. It was pretty widely reported that he wrecked the locker room in Denver. Pressure of the job could have sparked a relapse.

At least we don't have Russell Wilson

Heard this earlier;

The "Hail Moron"

lol

As much as I like the deep passing game, I’m getting tired of all these low probability shots on 3rd down.

Genghis wrote Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:37 pm:Wow! Amazing to see breathtaking stupidity working for us instead of against us.

I would not want to be that player for the Pats, can you imagine when he has to face Darth Hoodie?

If you have a shutdown cornerback,you can load the box with 8 guys.

A lot of good talking points on both sides. The Raiders traditonally do best when their defense is top 15 or better. It is, however, much harder to change up 11 guys plus their backups quickly than it is to change 1 guy. On the flip side, it is far harder to find a top level 1 guy at the QB position than pretty much any other on the field.

I have advocated for changing the QB position but even I know success rate doing so is far lower than keeping a serviceable alternative and we do, honestly, have a serviceable guy there. In my mind it comes down to the economics of the thing. If we are paying top dollar for a guy, he needs to be a top dollar guy. If he is not, we waste funds that could go to improving other areas.

But at some point you have to ask if saving money at the key position on the field and spreading the wealth will net you in wins? That is the crux of the matter. It is all tied into dollars vs wins. We have failed there for years. But emotionally keeping a player at the expense of dollars for wins is also a problem. We, I think, have done that to a large degree for literally decades. It is time to run this show as a business. And the desired product is wins and every dollar must go toward improving that product so you get the wins.

All that to say, i hope no matter which direction we go, we get the product this fanbase is starved for, and deserve as we have often been told by the decision makers.

The only thing Suspicious is Raider fans going Bi-Polar every time a player gets Injured & they dog them unmercifully like they Suck,,,Please stop!!!!