I feel like there might be some reason they are stashing him, similar to Stidham maybe he just does not look good enough to warrant it and the coaches know something we don't.

Then again, maybe this is a case of practice like Jane, play like Tarzan or something - he looked fantastic out there in the preseason.

I do believe it is worth a game to find out. Might as well scratch that itch if we are going to lose to other basement dwelling teams. So Hoyer looks better? I highly doubt that.

It is all history now. The Head Turnip in Charge did what he did and we all payed the price. It is not even worth speculating on now. Mark made the next two coaching hires. There is no guessing what Reggie would have done. Here is how bad it is in Raiderland. I was at the Nashville draft. I was on the stage for the first round. Every team got swag bags from their organizations out to the fans on the stage. I saw guys getting all kinds of cool stuff. Really nice team gear and shit. I got a generic Raider shirt and toothpaste and a toothbrush, a few bits of candy that looked like he raided the bottom of the halloween bag and that was about it. A fucking toothbrush? Other fans were pulling out logo balls and polo's and shit and I got a toothbrush. Who does that? Oh right, the Turnip. Everything flows from the top down. We suck as an organization because the owner sucks. candy and a toothbrush? How ironic :rofl:

It has been largely proven?

Tom Brady
Patrick Mahomes
Joe Montana
Aaron Rodgers
Drew Brees
Brett Favre
Philip Rivers
Terry Bradshaw
Ken Stabler
Bart Starr

What? 20 or so Super bowls between these guys and all of them top passers in the league during there respective era. All those QB's had great coaches or QB's they were backups too.

Brady had Bledsoe who was a former #1 pick and Belichick.

Patrick Mahomes with Andy Reid

Joe Montana with Bill Walsh

Aaron Rodgers had Brett Favre

Drew Brees had Doug Flutie

Favre didn't start his rookie year in Atlanta because the head coach was a dumbass

Philip Rivers had Drew Brees

Terry Bradshaw had Chuck Knoll

The Snake had Lamonica, Blanda and Madden

Bart Starr had Lombardi


While O’Connell has Jimmy G's sorry ass and dumbass McDaniels who has him inactive over fucking Hoyer for crying out loud.

Maxx wasn’t a plug & play prospect he was raw as hell played solid with some flashes but left a lot of plays on the field he had 2 sacks his first year

People seem to have revisionist history on Maxx now & i was a huge Maxx fan as he was one of my sleeper pick in that draft Maxx had 10 sacks, 16 tackles for loss and 4 forced fumbles his rookie year.

Fuck McDaniels for continuing to put hoyer at 2

your decision/conclusion is based off of having zero knowledge about how AOC has been playing during practice for the last 4 weeks, and preseason games against 2nd and 3rd string players that many are not even on a NFL team anymore... Does this seem logical to you ? Hoyer played like straight ass vs those 2nd and 3rd stringers, so you are the one being illogical.

The Raiders are 17-14 all-time vs the steelers

The Raiders are 11-5 at home vs the steelers

The last time the Raiders lost a home game to the steelers was in 12/10/1995. May that home streak continue!

the one in the middle

O’Connell better be the #2 QB for Sunday night.

I'm starting to believe that posts claiming that Carter should have been the pick are strictly coming from troll accounts. It can't be possible that people still don't understand this. I'd love to have him also. I'm also not happy with Tyree at this point. But holy shit, I went into this knowing that Carter was not going to be a Raider and to be fair, I understand why. I feel like everyone should. Most said they understood Carter was off the board because of the Ruggs situation but I remember most wanted Gonzalez if he was there. Don't remember many wanting Wilson.

I still think Wilson can become a good player but he needs to definitely put in the work like Crosby all gas no brakes, if that's ever going to manifest.

O’Connell is 25 though.

Look at some of the rookies starting already.

Young is 22

Richardson is 21

Stroud is 21, turning 22 next month.

Fuck that excuse about needing time, when the best way to learn is on the job.

O’Connell has been practicing in college since 2017 and started 2 years and played in 3 in college.

If Garoppolo continues to not put up points, put in O’Connell and see what the Raiders have in him.

So next year they have a better idea on where they need to go with their QB situation.

A good deal of these commenters have been waiting all off-season to 'show the world' that the Raiders should have given Carr 10, 11, 12 years ...

He just needed something - every year it was something. Then when he got that, he just needed something else.

Logic won't change their minds, it didn't for 6 years and it won't start now. Oh I know and it's sad!

panthers cheerleaders have the best uniforms in the nfl

The steelers is a very winnable game. If the Raiders lose the home opener vs the steelers because the defense is giving up 80% completion percentage to Pickett and Jacobs still can't move the chains, I think it's time to panic.

So far Mayer doesn't look like a good blocker out there. I thought getting rid of Wallers blocking was going to be an upgrade with Mayer but so far it doesn't look like it. Better start hitting that weight room because he's getting punk'd out there like if he was going against Crosby in practice.

I saw that during the game but the majority of the time Crosby was a non-factor.

The other team knows Wilson sucks so they are throwing everything but the kitchen sink at Crosby. Crosby this season is getting on my nerves though with all of his leadership persona. Great players with real talent dont usually act like cheerleaders, thats when you know there is a problem with this team as a whole. Crosby has been losing containment a lot so far. He goes inside trying to be slick and the offense runs outside instead.

He definitely doesn't have any help though which fucking sucks.

One thing for sure during 2 weeks is Garoppolo is not spreading the ball around.

He isn't picking defenses apart, only looks for his primary read mainly.

So far Garoppolo is who I thought he was when the Raiders signed him.

Hoping this offense will begin to gel next week.

Very disappointing game.

Garoppolo with 2 picks and apart from the 1st drive, looked bad.

Jacobs with negative rushing yards is pathetic.

Yes Wilson was MIA again, but so was Crosby which is even worse.

Hobbs with costly penalties.

When is Munford starting?

O’Connell needs to be the backup starting next week, Hoyer as the backup is fucking ridiculous!

this was the perfect game to put O’Connell in with it being a blowout, but no stupid McDaniels wants hoyers sorry ass as the backup.

this thread is fucking stupid!

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crowbar meme coming in 3,2,1......

Turnovers and sacks are the most important thing a defense can do. Put pressure on the QB, get interceptions and force and recover fumbles are the keys to winning games on the defensive side. Tackles for loss is up there too, this thread is fucking stupid!

As someone who wanted Rodgers and hated the Garoppolo signing. I'm happy we got Garoppolo instead Rodgers after 1 week.

The New vegas Ratriots were flat as a pancake all game. We could not run an awful lot and recievers were not getting open. Renfrow not schemed in to the mix--I guess Mc Manager will only be happy when he has a complete compliment of ex patriots.
It was a lucky win but who cares-not really the Raiders any more! I wish the team nothing but abject failure with McDaniels at the helm as he stands for the antithesis of the Raiders spirit. Meanwhile Carr takes the Titans apart. :clown: