I've had a day to digest this trade, and I still don't like it.

For many years the Seahawks have proven to be much less inept than our org. Their plan to trade Geno and sign Darnold is something we should have pursued. We could have kept our third round pick and had a player 7 years younger coming off a better season. Geno is 35 years old and even if he's able to regain his form from a few years ago, his shelf life is close to expired.

This is a typical Raider nepotism move, no team does it better. Reminds me a lot of McDaniels going after Jimmy G, the guy he knows and is comfortable with, but not necessarily the best for what this org needs. I know many will drink the kool aid like is always done, but there were better moves to be made.

The one move that will make me feel better is drafting someone like Milroe, who needs a couple years to develop the arm skill (to match the athleticism). I don't expect Geno will be around much longer than a year or two, so we better have a plan in place so we're not in the same situation next offseason. After a few days of digestion, I don’t hate it as much but to me it’s a theme of the names and faces changing in the organization while the actions remain the same. New regime comes in and brings in vet QB that bombs. A year later new regime comes in and brings in vet QB that bombs. A year later another new regime comes in and brings in a soon to be 35 year old veteran QB. We have all seen this play out extremely poorly in successive season so understandably I’m having a difficult time getting excited regardless of the positive stats posters want to throw out there. Until it works, this plan has been an absolute disaster for this organization and I’m quite surprised they are going back to this well thinking it will be different this time. Even if Smith plays as well as he did last season, the Raiders may win 9 or 10 games and finish out of the playoffs and Smith will be 36 at the start of the 2026 season. What are we doing here? Was anyone here a week ago really looking at the Seahawks situation of mediocrity and thinking that’s where I want the Raiders to be? I certainly wasn’t.

Respectfully disagree. Darnold had six crappy seasons followed by one good season with a major regression the last two games when teams figured out how to scheme for him. And every team he faces next season will using the same defensive looks until he shows he can beat them.

Smith, by contrast, has had three very good seasons in a row, suggesting he knows how to maintain successful play. He's figured it out.

Agree that Milroe would be a great pick. He can spend the next two years as a Kordell Stewart type of weapon before taking over for Smith in 2027 or so. Good luck with this organization going into the future...I hope you guys see another ring, but the old guard is just fed up & doesn't buy into the hype anymore...been there done that...new regime they have their shit together it will be different, but it always goes South so I will reserve any enthusiasm until I see a plus column in wins mid-season...have a good night.

I've had a day to digest this trade, and I still don't like it.

For many years the Seahawks have proven to be much less inept than our org. Their plan to trade Geno and sign Darnold is something we should have pursued. We could have kept our third round pick and had a player 7 years younger coming off a better season. Geno is 35 years old and even if he's able to regain his form from a few years ago, his shelf life is close to expired.

This is a typical Raider nepotism move, no team does it better. Reminds me a lot of McDaniels going after Jimmy G, the guy he knows and is comfortable with, but not necessarily the best for what this org needs. I know many will drink the kool aid like is always done, but there were better moves to be made.

The one move that will make me feel better is drafting someone like Milroe, who needs a couple years to develop the arm skill (to match the athleticism). I don't expect Geno will be around much longer than a year or two, so we better have a plan in place so we're not in the same situation next offseason. ^^^ the Godfather tells it like it is...I expect he elevates us to 7-11 nothing more than another wasted season in Reality..and I'm a year closer to Deaths door...it's the Raider way!

ALLRAIDERWORLD21 wrote Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:12 pm:He makes a valid point..

https://twitter.com/_Murf/status/189516 ... 92553?s=19

No he doesn't, he's on drugs.

A FIRST? Dude is ill.

Him and Woodson were underrated and one of my favorite tandems of Raider starting cb

Split Big Jerk's conspiracy thread for next year's SB into two topics since a few people were, understandably, thinking the topic was about the game tomorrow. This topic is about the game tomorrow.

Trade for Milton AND draft a 2nd tier guy in the 3rd. Howard might still be there...

The money you save by not spending on a free agent QB can be use on the oline.

RickRyb wrote Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:48 am:Josh McDaniels of New England doesn't particularly care for off-script QBs. New England trades Drake Make to The Raiders for their #6 pick and they then take Sanders at #3.

Sweet. I'd throw in next year's first too.

So, Howard to follow?

Sheduer going first in Bucky's mock. I'll be happy if he's gone before the Raiders pick.

https://twitter.com/NFLGameDay/status/1885439307475017800

The rules changed a few years ago and teams can no longer block a coach who isn't a coordinator from taking an interview for a coordinator position, or from taking a coordinator job.

As you might expect, the Bucs aren't going to help Jacksonville or Coen:
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1885297746153754982

I've been negative on most of our coaches in recent years, but I think Graham is better than a lot of fans think. He's got solid production out of under-the-radar guys like Spillane, Koonce, Chaisson, Butler etc...I blame our downfall much more on the head coaching we've had and I also like the fact that if Graham leaves for a HC job (and it seems he came close this offseason), we get two third round picks. There's not a lot to dislike about this as far as I'm concerned. Good point, he does a great job with under the radar players and other teams castoffs. Throw in the fact that our DL which was going to be our strength was absolutely decimated by injuries and he did a pretty darn good job.

I think Sanders could easily slide, the fact he's was so bad in the bowl game vs BYU could make teams wonder how he'll do in the big stage. I don't believe he was very good last year against Oregon either. A bit of that Derek Carr vs USC vibe, and actually there's a few similarities that give me worry (annoying family, benefited from having an elite WR, priviledged from having an NFL family, etc). I could see it. He seems like the type of prospect where the media and NFL scouting departments could be miles apart on.

Media wise - he’s a QB from NFL royalty and it’s a weak class. Easy to see why he’s getting mocked in the top 5.

NFL scouting wise - if his name wasn’t sanders and he was just a solid pocket passer with maturity questions from Colorado… would we be talking about him going top 5?

Xramfan wrote Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:36 pm:Guarded....... like most Raider fans


I got the impression Pete and Spytek wont be patient for those that dont "buy in"

Well, right now he’s the king dipshit for throwing his weight behind AP. Dude just needs to keep his head down, work hard, and stay in his lane.

Well personally, the first ever walk off Grand Slam in World Series history, hit by a guy who went to the same HS as me, hits fuckin hard! Dude, you gotta use that line next time you get stopped by the popo
.....

Officer, do you know who I went to high school with? ?????

Please, Live stream it. :grin:

:beer:

Corleone wrote Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:10 am:https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/stat ... 6122413557

Funny how this works out. I was told Derek would be carrying the Saints to the playoffs on a yearly basis, not destroying the franchise.

https://media.tenor.com/8YF3Es-xc8YAAAA ... prised.png

Water finds its own level.

spam and eggs is a delight, just saying.

Loving our off season so far, I am totally buying in after some personal reflection and the realization that Pete and I may have the same shelf life which gives me hope that his level of urgency matches my desire to see one last run before I check out and take the dirt nap. I do not even buy green bananas anymore because it is an investment I am not sure I will pay off on. I kid of course, I totally believe I can outlive a green banana.

Corleone wrote Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:09 pm:I take it all back on Coen, this is sleazy af if true. Fuck this guy.

https://twitter.com/albertbreer/status/ ... -m-Vcz_osQ

Bucs podcast saying how he has a history of this and is known to be selfish.

Might be why Brady didn’t want interview him

Corleone wrote Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:30 pm:And speaking of which, why hasn’t the Spytek deal been announced? I’m getting a little concerned.

You and me both, given the Raiders track record, it has me a little puckered right now

He turned down working with Baalke in Jacksonville, but working with Spytek in Las Vegas (under his idol Tom Brady), is a different situation that maybe he would entertain. It is one of three things for me

Firstly he doesn’t feel ready to be a HC just yet & is just using the process to sound things out for the future

Secondly he caught wind of Baalke being on the hotseat & turned it down knowing that any new GM could use him as a scapegoat after a year if it didn't go so well

Thirdly the one i’m hoping for is that he was told by Spytek he got Raiders GM position & to sit tight because he wants him as HC due to a working relationship already being established.

Spytek & Coen would be a good thing due to Spytek knowing what type of players Coen likes to run his offence as he has being scouting all year with that in mind.

Spytek is the first GM hire that has excited me let’s hope the coaching hire can to

The more time that passing, the more it seems they had no backup plan to Ben Johnson which is wild.

Ok i saw what he said. Shefter said Brian Schottenheimer is the favorite in Vegas meaning the betting favorite for the cowboys job, NOT the favorite for the Raiders job.

Super sloppy reporting.

Raidernation1979 wrote Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:58 am:We should add him to the interview list

Is he a young 86?

chucker wrote Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:35 am:https://twitter.com/NFLSTROUD/status/18 ... 9135686958
Moore makes Carroll seem young.

We should add him to the interview list

WolfRaider wrote Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:59 pm:I’m still holding out on hope for Todd Monken

i noticed him and spytec were at tampabay a couple of years together

Corleone wrote Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:12 pm:You’re right. Many of us overestimated Mark stepping aside. The Davis stench remains.

Brother, I can understand why you and others felt hopeful. Lord knows that I’d like to feel hope again.

So now we have to talk ourselves into 100 year old Pete Carroll?

https://media4.giphy.com/media/QMHoU66sBXqqLqYvGO/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952wfsan5z4js5vw8sl9r3mrkdzzt53ob4d1rq6ygyj&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif I was just going to mention that I could be in the minority because I don't want retread Carroll. I would take Coen or Monken instead.

Yeah, I don't think a Qb in a wheelchair will survive long in the NFL either.

-- Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:03 am --

raiderkoch wrote Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:02 am:Yeah, I don't think a Qb in a wheelchair will survive long in the NFL either.

Oh, sorry, I responded after only looking at the title.

RI RAIDER wrote Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:04 am:I don't feel good about Johnson. I think him getting the same agent as Campbell makes me think he is staying put (I could be reading this wrong, but just my take).

That agent works on commission and he’s not going to influence anyone to turn down $$$$$$$