Pick good players in the draft. Pick good players in FA. Both are key to success on the field, and cap flexibility. If you pick good players then it doesn't matter if you "overdrafted" or "overpaid" them. Nobody is complaining about Maxx Crosby's contract. That’s my point about the draft.

2013: 0
2014: 1
2015: 0
2016: 0
2017: 0
2018: 1
2019: 5
2020: 2
2021: 4
2022: 6

Total players left on today’s roster the Raiders drafted. Ferrell, Koonce, Diablo, Simpson, Farrell, Jr., Butler(these two DT’s have been inactive a few games this year) have been nothing to write home about. Robertson has flashed more this year than his first two years combined. When you draft and afterwards, still need lots of help at the positions you drafted, something went horribly wrong. And this spills over into FA by having to spend $ on positions you drafted. You can never had an adequate roster by doing this.

They need to finally figure out how the draft thingy works first. Fix that and that’ll help alleviate the cap woes.

Second half:

Well, 3 n out coming up.
Dang. here comes the shift in momentum , 2nd haft started out bad too.
Might be time to put up some Christmas lights. This game is over.
3 and out there we go
Crosby with the sack... who the hell the raiders have without him???
Any momentum we had before the 2nd half was gone with that final series. That will be why we lose.
I think Raiders will score 21 this half. We might get a FG or two.
why cant we stop jacobs unreal
Tie game... he makes it from 52 yards.... we get blocked from like 25.... typical.
The coach and Gordon should have been gone weeks ago
rolling right into the pressure. We are so screwed for 4 more years.
What a terrible punt.
The difference between first and second half performance is hard to understand.
This is how I truly feel currently. This team can't complete a full game but they sure can give you a quarter and a half of solid football before they cave in. Penalties and not being on same page with receivers doing us in currently. Dropped passes too.
honestly it doesn't matter who coaches this team. Fire this coach tomorrow please. The worst second half team in football right now
Stares Adams down the entire play and he is still wide open.
This game is like the football version of Dumb and Dumber with Hackett and McDaniels replacing Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels.
Nice adjustment Sutton but can we at least pretend to threaten the run in 3rd and short...?
Why dont we have a TE to help with Crosby? The dudes an animal.
Because our coaches are clueless.
Crosby kills us everytime smh
Again Crosby... 1 man wrecking crew.... Raiders have like 4 sacks all season that were not from Crosby... damn...
Every Single Time I remember a game I think he had 5 sacks on Denver in 1 game ugh he is Denver’s one man wrecking crew !!
Back to settling for a FG....some things never change.
I hate Russell Wilson so bad.
Feels like we're getting killed in the run yet they only have 10 points... nuts
We've been the much better team. Need to put the game beyond the Raiders on this drive.
You line up 5 receivers and pass it 4 yards? smh
I feel nothing but pain watching this team every week.
3rd sack this quarter and again on third down.
I’m trying so damn hard to be excited to go to the game next month because my girlfriend got me tickets for Christmas. But my God, it’s getting harder and harder to be able to watch this pathetic excuse of trash week after week.
slip slip slipping away.. The D is leaving wide open hole, then Jacob finds it
I hate field goals. We are now a culture of celebrating field goals and it is embarrassing.
This has the makings of the Raiders scoring a TD for the win. If the D ever needed a turnover, it's now.
The one time you should've taken the sack and not thrown it away...
Only person who would have passed it other than Hackett was McDaniels...
Another loss. Bad coaching kills us again.
thats what stupid offensive play calling gets ya..
Faiders enough time to win it,,, we find new ways week after week to choke it up...
Wow just awful & sadly predictable
lose 2 x to mcdaniels oh my fire him
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What an absolute joke we are.
Lmao. This team is worse than the stupid Pittsburgh Pirates. Equally stupid owner and GM. What a joke.
Is there a reason they pass ball third and 10 after 2-minute warning when LVR out of timeouts? We are led by idiots.
Still alive, but seriously.... when do the admins give us a poop emoji
We have a good defense but enough with this elite defense stuff. Teams know we can’t score more than 16 points so they barely even try to score. Just hang around until they score enough to win.
Micah Parsons much better than Surtain. Needs to be said every week.
Lol, a touchdown on the 1st possession... cuz that can happen in this game
That was easy.
Still can't cover TE's.
No ILB will do that.
2 plays and in FG range. We are just doodoo.
Sick of watching this team suck week after week.
WOW Fire this clown already
Oof, that was ugly from both our supposed All Pro DBs
Did anyone really think we were winning this game?
Can some one tell me when the D is gonna take the field... cause they haven't been there the last 2 drives.....
Game over... again... D chokes again.... Doesn't matter what we do.. we find ways to lose... Cannot get this damn season over quick enough.
Swept by the Josh Mcdanel’s Raiders.
That's a hard one to take. We were the better team and played reasonably well but were dome by Adams.
Well that was quick. We account for more than half the Raiders wins… blegh.
Find a way to lose…that’s our MO
we do dumb things to keep teams in the game and when it comes time to make the plays in the clutch we make the wrong ones.
McDaniels gets to keep his job for another week. Fire Hackkett NOW!!
gonna get swept by the AFC west lol
Faiders have 3 wins and 2 against Denver... hard to believe we have a team that sucks more that the ones under Vance and Fangio... but we do... Kudos to being at the bottom of the barrell and finidng another barrel below out... 3-7... Can't hold a lead... doubt they can hold their own jocks... pathetic.
I’m done with this team. I’ll see you all next year
this has to be the bottom...but honestly it's not. things are gonna get much worse.
RW has to know better on the end of regulation. Take the sack! Don’t throw ball away.

First Half:

Surtain getting clowned early.
Harris most likely out for the game with a knee injury 3 minutes into the game.
Status Quo for this team.
WOW, Wilson actually saw the blitz and made a good decision and throw.
Amazing start on offense.
It should be that easy every game.
Hinton may turn out to be the most legendary Bronco ever. He is impossible not to love.
So you can score a touchdown on the opening drive
Promising start. We are ready to play. This already looks different.
First series and we can see the play calling is much improved and the plays seem to have more fluidity. Les hope this continues.
That was unusual. A drive that led to a TD.
Let's not celebrate yet. It could have been a fluke drive. Let's see if they can do it a few more times before getting too excited.
As usual we commit stupid fouls for no reason.
I see we can't tackle again this week.
Jacobs has Denver’s number.
Noooooo goooood!!!
He missed it!!!!! Nice.
Sutton has to bring that in.
Sutton drop...Pathetic and makes me scream
Sutton has to catch that but he was going down short of the marker regardless.
we may make our season PPG average in the first half if we keep this up
2 straight scoring drives holy moly
That’s how the last game started out…
Man. Struggling to stop Jacobs. Yikes.
Guess we aren't covering Adams this part of the game... idiots...
Can’t sto the run and not doing a good job of tackling.
Adams is a pretty good receiver.
How do we leave him that wide open?!?!?!
Because our "elite, shutdown corner" doesn't shadow their best WR....even though he is their only legit receiver.
Speaking of which, Surtain just got punked on that TD.
Can we now stop the comparisons to Champ? Surtain is nowhere near that good.
Surtain continues to get clowned.
Well fellow fans this is where the downfall starts. I see Surtain on the field but there is no covering Adams so far. Raiders are running around the field getting every first down. Something has to change of Denver is going to win this.
Seriously, we’re going to trash Surtain? Give me a break. Leave Surtain alone. Let’s go Broncos.
Gordon strikes again
Wow, Gordon fumbled?! That never happens! Oh…wait….
Blocked FG....of course....
So the Red zone offense is exactly the same.
If Murray is the back like he should be that's a touchdown. This team is so clueless. The guy fumbles every game cut him
Why do I watch this crap
I swear it’s amazing how every week someone finds a way to lose….once again it’s Gordon and then again McManus gets blocked. losers lose, that’s the bottom line and it’s infuriating

Just wait until the Jags drag them across the pavement…

Carr fans be like, “Carr doesn’t have time to make a play being under pressure!”

Meanwhile, in Buffalo…

June510 wrote Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:45 pm:Where are the resident Carr defenders? I can hear your silence.

Time to start the 2023 free agency and draft threads. Only way I’ll get excited is if we blow it all up and start over. Why? So we can scratch our heads at the third rounder they drafted in the first? -- Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:10 pm -- I'm not sure we could beat Ole Miss. Lance Kiffin would eat their defense for lunch.

Oaktownonly wrote Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:08 pm:This fire the coach stuff makes zero sense to me. How many coaches has this QB gone through? I know this is a crazy thought but maybe, just maybe we should get rid of the QB this time.

Make it both and I’m giddy.

I agreed with going for it when we did. I also thought we should have gone for it on the 4th and 1 when we called a timeout but then kicked a field goal instead - i think it was the field goal that made it 17-0. We were running the ball so well at that point, I don't believe they would have stopped us.
The play call on the last play of the game was not great - that was my only issue.

McDaniels has us competitive at least and deserves a bit more time. Shit, Carr's had 9 freaking years. Carr is Teflon and McD is glue. Any negatives spewed at Carr don’t stick, not so much for McD. Fire the HC five games into his tenure, but the ninth year rookie QB gets a pass. :rolleyes:

The defense has 65 million less in talent and was not given our first 5 draft picks this year.

I want to see if the offense falls off or not to end the year before I crown them - but those numbers are a net positive so far. They have fallen off cliffs so many of the previous years around week 8 or 9. Here’s my reason why I don’t get the reason why ppl are so ready to can McD. He goes for it on fourth and 1 on their side of the 50(they don’t convert and it’s a short field for KC) and they score. They don’t bust his chops, either, because again, they scored. He goes for two late in the fourth(which was the right call, IMO) and they don’t convert and it’s a horrible call, he’s incompetent, and needs fired. It was more reckless to go for it in the first when it’s 0-0 than to go for two late in the fourth, but mums the word for the fourth and 1 in the first. I love the inconsistency on these Raiders forums I frequent.

It's gon be a tough battle, but I think the Raiders squeak by. I'm taking the Raiders + the 3.

-- Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:11 am --

RoughRaider wrote Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:32 pm:Miss me yet?

Nope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I see a bye coming up.
I see Houston at home.

Then I see NOLA and JAX on the road.

I see a good chance to be 4-4 by the end of Week 9.
Season’s not over. I remember two teams being in playoff contention getting lambasted by the Jets and Falcons, and each season ended in a downward spiral. I don’t expect this team to be any better. Sorry, I’m just jaded.

Oaktownonly wrote Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:49 pm:Right?!

I’d love to be able to photoshop Mark’s face on this and say that he’s fired McD for cause.

Carr gets 8+ years but McD needs canned after five games. That’s the Raiderest thing the Raiders could do.

BoJacksonRules wrote Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:17 am:Don’t spout reality this early, I at least want to think we have a shot leading up to kickoff.

We have a 50/50 chanst of winning the coin flip. That’s something.

toobscruiser wrote Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:04 pm:Even when we win it’s the same old tired conversation around here

We’re jaded….

Oaktownonly wrote Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:02 pm:Didn't see the games but are the fumbles normal for Levis?

One fumble he was hit helmet to helmet but it wasn’t called.

IDK it appears he got it right on the first try. :rofl: I didn’t say he didn’t get it right the first try, just that’s it’s not the best way to teach your kid how to river dance. -- Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:57 am -- IDK it appears he got it right on the first try. :rofl: I’d love to be able to edit, as soon as he shoots, I edit a guy river dancing into that gif. But I’m as tech savvy as a snail…

352Raider wrote Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:38 pm:https://c.tenor.com/TXeu0qZVvB4AAAAd/in-pain-ouch.gif

That’s not exactly the best way to teach your kids how to river dance.

But they could be. I forget if it was last year or the year before when we'd run the jet sweep and Carr would fake running around the end. At no time did any defender on any team even bother staying home to defend the QB end around. Not once! That's because everyone knew he wasn't going to run with it.

The maddening thing is that he has enough athletic ability to pick up several first downs per game--we saw that yesterday. That means he'd be a legit threat for QB draw a few times a season.

So why isn't he utilized that way? Only him and the coaches know. I have a gut feeling he just doesn't want to, but that's pure speculation on my part. Carr avoids contact at any and all cost. He’s a chicken.

Willmark wrote Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:22 pm:Yep, what got is to the playoffs in 2021:
As you note, Covid
Jacobs
Carlson
Renfrow
The play of the defense at the close of the season.

Not sure there is any way to replicate with just how fluky that was.

The Browns were decimated by COVID and the Raiders barely squeaked by.

2021: 13th
2020: 18th
2019: 17th
2018: 20th
2017: 20th
2016: 9th
2015: 14th(this was his high mark of 32 TD in a season)
2014: 13th

In his first eight seasons, he’s cracked the top-10 a whopping one time in RZ TD passes. Again, JM ain’t the problem.

He is who we knew he is!

It’s astonishing how inept they are in the RZ. 2/6 yesterday, Titans went 3/3. And of course one of the Raider conversions was a 4th down 50:50 ball where Hollins just wanted it more.

I really thought McDaniels was going to be the guy to solve these RZ blunders - but I don’t believe we’re any better this year than last. They’ve struggled with RZ TD’s the last nine years. JM is not the problem.

Omg so much unfair bias against Carr. I was at the game and what I saw clearly is Waller dropping 2 touchdown passes in the end zone an average TE catches. One leading to a pick costing us at least 3 huge points. Despite that Carr made a valiant comeback with a perfect 4th down clutch pass to Hollins in the back of the end zone with the game on the line!

Without Carr yesterday this team gets BLOWN OUT!!
Props to Carr for making it a game! Bassacia curse continues! You don’t take a playoff team and dismantle it the next year! Early in the 4th Carr was 17-23 for 133 yards. Yes, he is the problem.

McDaniels is already on the hot seat while our middling QB is on year 9 w/o any heat on him? Sounds like the Raiders we’ve come to know and love. I guess some QB’s take 10+ years to develop.

Sold My Soul wrote Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:45 pm:https://cdn.chatsports.com/thumbnails/1 ... ginal.jpeg
Miss me yet?

Nope, especially during the draft. #Gulp

MastermindLV wrote Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:25 pm:Coach is on the hot seat after 3 games.. meanwhile the QB gets 9 years smh

MD wanted to take him fifth overall according to reports. So he has an affinity for Carr. Carr ain’t going nowhere as long as he is the owner, I’m afraid.

haji81872 wrote Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:35 am:Jon Gruden was no better at playcalling at the end of games.

Greg Olson
Bill Musgrave
Todd Downing
Chuckles(Olson after Chuckles resigned)
McDaniels

Carr is the same under all of them. Musgrave had him playing better than any of them, but after his broken leg, he retracted into his shell.