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Xramfan » Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:29 pm
This will get locked I’m sure but just sharing some info.Coach Pappy » Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:51 pm
I have owned and EV for over a year and absolutely love it. I did not buy it because I thought it was better for the environment. I bought it out of necessity as it was cheaper to buy/operate than to keep commuting in my paid of gas vehicle to work and back. I was spending over $600 a month in gas (vehicle was paid off) and was able to purchase my vehicle and pay for charging for less than it cost me in gas. Just to be clear, my car payment and charging cost (I have a home level 2 charger) is less that what I was paying for gas with my previous vehicle. We like it so much, it is now our travel vehicle as well. Travelling does take some research as I plan our trip so that charging occurs around eating/shopping/whatever so that we are just not sitting in the vehicle waiting to charge. I am worried that non-tesla vehicles ( I have a Kona Electric) will need more charging stations, but as of yet I have not had to wait for a charging station while traveling. It takes about 45 minutes to charge to 80% on a level 3 charging station. An 80% charge gets me about 200 miles. A 100% charge gets me about 260 miles depending in what I am running in the vehicle (ac/heater).Raider Nation » Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:09 pm
In Colorado, we burn coal to create the electricity for the EV’s ( other than those who have solar panels)…. The electrical future is helium-3, it is found on the moon in high concentrations (that is why a bunch of countries want to go back to the moon). About twenty years ago, I’m pretty sure I heard 5 grams of helium-3 could power a city of 100,000 people for a year. The best part is that it is non radioactive! Without helium-3 or nuclear power, hydrogen is the obvious way to power cars.Xramfan » Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:14 pm
Interesting. Thanks for your input.Coach Pappy wrote Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:51 pm:I have owned and EV for over a year and absolutely love it. I did not buy it because I thought it was better for the environment. I bought it out of necessity as it was cheaper to buy/operate than to keep commuting in my paid of gas vehicle to work and back. I was spending over $600 a month in gas (vehicle was paid off) and was able to purchase my vehicle and pay for charging for less than it cost me in gas. Just to be clear, my car payment and charging cost (I have a home level 2 charger) is less that what I was paying for gas with my previous vehicle. We like it so much, it is now our travel vehicle as well. Travelling does take some research as I plan our trip so that charging occurs around eating/shopping/whatever so that we are just not sitting in the vehicle waiting to charge. I am worried that non-tesla vehicles ( I have a Kona Electric) will need more charging stations, but as of yet I have not had to wait for a charging station while traveling. It takes about 45 minutes to charge to 80% on a level 3 charging station. An 80% charge gets me about 200 miles. A 100% charge gets me about 260 miles depending in what I am running in the vehicle (ac/heater).
As for your several hour charging... not happening unless you are charging at home, or don't plan your routes on trips.
Level 1 charger - 110V - about 36 hours to charge my vehicle
level 2 charger - 240V (What I have in my garage) - about 6-7 hours to go from 0% to 80% charge
Level 3 Charger - 50-350V (DC - public charging station) - about 45m to an hour to go from 0% to 80% charge
My daily commute is 70 miles/day. I plug in every night and it takes about 2 - 3 hours to charge to 80% where I have 200M range. I don't have to change my oil every 3000 miles, and my brakes will last about 100k miles due to the regenerative braking. I have had the car for 15 months and have paid $80 in upkeep cost for an air filter.
Coach Pappy » Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:06 pm
Yes, I live in central California, not too far from Fresno. I have experienced rolling blackouts, but since I have the car set up to only charge during non-peak hours (9pm to noon) it has not been an issue with charging. We are leaving tomorrow for Reno, and am hoping that we will not run into this issue. The car will charge to 100% tonight (usually only charge to 80%) which will easily get us to our charging destination/lunch. We will need to charge probably once in Reno/Sparks, and then again on the trip back. We have either planned shopping or eating to correspond with each stop.Xramfan wrote Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:14 pm:Interesting. Thanks for your input.
Do you live in California?
Have you experienced brown outs?
Coach Pappy » Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:20 pm
I gave out bad info on the charging levels....Attyla » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:01 am
Unless you go Tesla, the market for EV's is decent but resale values are low. Tesla tends to hold its value reasonably well. I know you never buy a car thinking about what you can get for it if you sell it, but the "show me the vin" guy absolutely hates negotiations for EV's and way under bids them because the value just is not there. That tells me a lot. And I know people who bought them that end up hating them. I am usually a guy who will chase any cool new tech but not this time. I do not drive enough to care about saving 50 bucks every two weeks on gas.