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  Evil Empire » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:30 am

Raider87 wrote Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:53 am:Anybody concerned about a long legged 6’5” guy playing inside LBer?
Edmunds measurables look more like a 3-4 OLB.
It may not matter at all, but it’s not a common frame if he’s going to play on the inside.

Haven’t really studied Edmunds yet, just watched a few highlights, certainly one of the most interesting prospects this year.

That was my concern eariler and I said it over on the draft board. But remember, we will be lining up two LB's inside often and those two will be doing a LOT of work. He is big, durable and up to the task. Thus far, Marrow looks good but is small, James has issues with health. Lee is quality depth. What hit me is that Edmunds would be a great understudy for Bowman. As far as his height, he doesn't play high. He has GREAT natural knee bend and he's fast, AND he is a great blitzer. I met him and his size was shock and awe.

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  coldblooded » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:40 am

Evil Empire wrote Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:19 am:Boooooo! Ward is good, but not that good. He sticks to you but he simply does not play the ball like a smaller Carey. Plus, we need to stop going small!

Yep this is pretty much how I feel. Ward is really good in coverage, he’s smooth, he’s quick, but even with all that, he often still gives up the catch. A lot of times it’s because the wr is able to use a size advantage to make the play.

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  Evil Empire » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:41 am

ReturnOfTheMack wrote Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:32 am:If it's Tremaine Edmunds vs Roquan Smith, I'm taking Edmunds. You can see the difference when Edmunds makes a tackle, that player stays wrapped up. Roquans tackles do stick but he ends up sliding down to the ankles which can give up extra yardage. Both very quick, I'd question whether Roquan can keep that speed when he inevitably has to increase in size when he gets to the NFL.

That is exactly what he does. Watching him makes me appreciate Rueben Foster who was the same height and weight at the combine. I don't know how that guy is able to tee people up the way he does.

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  coldblooded » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:50 am

jehrydsuki wrote Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:17 pm:
Anybody have any particular feelings about josh Jackson or dense ward?

i just commented on Denzel Ward.

Josh Jackson looks like a corner that needs to be in primarily a zone defense to succeed. i don't think he has the man coverage skills to keep up with NFL wrs. but he's great working in his area. obviously he has tremendous ball skills. he just doesn't seem like a fit for the defense i think the Raiders will want to run.

here's my thoughts on a couple other guys.

At this point, it's no secret Mike Hughes is my favorite corner in the draft. i wrote a lengthy post about him in the draft room. i think he's the best corner in the draft and the only one i'd want in the 1st round.

Isaiah Oliver is another guy that's intriguing, but not in the 1st. His footwork is all over the place, he's sloppy, but he has incredible length and speed to make up for his mistakes. He's got an Asumugha type body. He'll need a lot of development, but he has the traits to turn into something really good. on top of that he has great ball skills.

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  Gannon12 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:55 am

getovahit wrote Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:15 pm:Good god does Sony michel pop out when watching him. This guys has to have a first round grade right? I always get a giant man crush on one prospect and this might be the guy for this year. Mack, then Leo, then chris jones, then foster, and now Sony. How is this guy not a top 20 prospect? He is a game breaker imo. Every time he touches the ball it looks like he can take it the distance. Are we sure Barkley is actually better? I wanna see what Sony would have looked like with an oc who actually designed an offense around him.

I need to spend more time looking at other backs but I really like Michel. I think this kid is gonna put on a show in Indy.

I started watching his film as well. Dude you may be onto something with him. Yeah I’m not so sure Barkley is way better than him either or even the best RB in the draft. Id love to trade down with Buffalo and take Landry/Ward and Michel. That’d be amazing.

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  Silva-n-Mack » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:34 am

Evil Empire wrote Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:30 pm:

You simply don't know what you are talking about. Edmunds is just as fast as Smith but carries another 25 pounds and four inches. You can like who you want, but there is no question who hits harder.

Agreed, But for me.. Its the coverage skills in the middle of the field that makes me like edmunds more.. We got smoked last year!

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  Evil Empire » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:34 am

Gannon12 wrote Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:55 am:I started watching his film as well. Dude you may be onto something with him. Yeah I’m not so sure Barkley is way better than him either or even the best RB in the draft. Id love to trade down with Buffalo and take Landry/Ward and Michel. That’d be amazing.

HE might me onto something???? I see no one wants to credit Uncle Evil anymore. Yup, just take me out to the curb on garbage day!

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  Raidernation24 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:39 am

Raider87 wrote Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:53 am:Anybody concerned about a long legged 6’5” guy playing inside LBer?
Edmunds measurables look more like a 3-4 OLB.
It may not matter at all, but it’s not a common frame if he’s going to play on the inside.

Haven’t really studied Edmunds yet, just watched a few highlights, certainly one of the most interesting prospects this year.

Think Anthony Barr, Karlos Dansby

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  Raidernation24 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:44 am

Evil Empire wrote Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:30 am:That was my concern eariler and I said it over on the draft board. But remember, we will be lining up two LB's inside often and those two will be doing a LOT of work. He is big, durable and up to the task. Thus far, Marrow looks good but is small, James has issues with health. Lee is quality depth. What hit me is that Edmunds would be a great understudy for Bowman. As far as his height, he doesn't play high. He has GREAT natural knee bend and he's fast, AND he is a great blitzer. I met him and his size was shock and awe.

And he will be only 20 years old when drafted...

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  Evil Empire » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:47 am

Raidernation24 wrote Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:39 am:Think Anthony Barr, Karlos Dansby

What was that tall, yoked up LB Seattle used to have years ago? I wanna say he played for the 49ers as well.

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  Silva-n-Mack » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:50 am

Evil Empire wrote Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:34 am:HE might me onto something???? I see no one wants to credit Uncle Evil anymore. Yup, just take me out to the curb on garbage day!

This post comes after Someone Just quoted you.... Greedy...

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  Silva-n-Mack » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:52 am

Evil Empire wrote Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:34 am:HE might me onto something???? I see no one wants to credit Uncle Evil anymore. Yup, just take me out to the curb on garbage day!

I love Landry!!! I'm hiding behind enemy lines and live in The Boston Area! If we can't have VON and MACK on the same team... here is the next best thing!

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  Evil Empire » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:01 am

Jraider15 wrote Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:52 am:I love Landry!!! I'm hiding behind enemy lines and live in The Boston Area! If we can't have VON and MACK on the same team... here is the next best thing!

Not for this system. The goal isn't to field the smallest DL possible.

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  Raidernation24 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:01 am

Evil Empire wrote Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:47 am:What was that tall, yoked up LB Seattle used to have years ago? I wanna say he played for the 49ers as well.

Wow, Julian Peterson. Dude was a monster and I nearly forgot completely about him

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  Evil Empire » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:04 am

Raidernation24 wrote Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:01 am: Wow, Julian Peterson. Dude was a monster and I nearly forgot completely about him

YES

I could not dig up his name from the recesses of my brain! He reminds me of Peterson in terms of his footspeed and ability to run with TEs.