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  The Blackness » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:23 pm

Nothing to earth shattering but just wanted to point these things out..

* I realize 1 preseason gm in the books but those that have watched should have noticed a somewhat improved version of C.Cook. He'll likely be the #2 if he continues the way he's playing. I bring this up bc this coaching staff SHOULD hopefully bring things together by far closer. I had mentioned last year the previous staff never really gave much thought towards the #2 QB & the #3 was just an after thought. It shows clearly, the team is working w/ all 3 levels regardless.

* Look for some possible trades as preseason comes to close, not necessarily to acquire but to ship out. Nothing concrete but a possibility.. S.Roberts,D.Penn & a lesser tiered guy.

* Mack will be on the field come week 1. There's rumblings he could report @ some time this week & the team IS working towards a new deal BOTH sides can be happy with. As for trades, what team doesn't listen to ANY offer for any player. That would be complete craziness if a GM or Gruden or whomever wouldn't listen. The team never had any FULL intentions of moving Mack unless they got some bat ass crazy deal NO team would turn away.The only way & I mean only way Mack is not on the field come wk 1 or sooner would be bc his agent is asking on ridiculous demands or amount. The other way due to old school ways would be Jon getting in the way of Jon. I highly doubt this would really even take place.He's stubborn on things but not stupid.

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  Scarpariello » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:28 pm

Thanks Blackness! I wonder if they could get anything for Roberts...

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  Radafan » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:33 pm

:thumbsup: Thanks for the info. We are all excited for this season, and that will only twofold with the addition of Mack.

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  Imgon8itch » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:35 pm

Ty for this update

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  Devilspawn » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:48 pm

Thanks for the update.

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  The Blackness » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:51 pm

Scarpariello wrote Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:28 pm:Thanks Blackness! I wonder if they could get anything for Roberts...
Likely talking like a 5th,6th or a 7th with the hopes of the pick moving up a round IF he made final 53 or played certain % of snaps, etc clause.

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  victvm » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:52 pm

Scarpariello wrote Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:28 pm:Thanks Blackness! I wonder if they could get anything for Roberts...
Someone taking over his salary is enough for me. Reduction of cap hit is plenty. Make it a conditional 7th if he makes back to back Pro Bowls or something equally unlikely. If that is what it takes.

Penn has to be worth something. He's a starting quality LT with recent Pro Bowls. Someone must be in need and have a touch of cap space. Hell, the Browns qualify!

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  The Blackness » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:55 pm

victvm wrote Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:52 pm:Someone taking over his salary is enough for me. Reduction of cap hit is plenty. Make it a conditional 7th if he makes back to back Pro Bowls or something equally unlikely. If that is what it takes.

Penn has to be worth something. He's a starting quality LT with recent Pro Bowls. Someone must be in need and have a touch of cap space. Hell, the Browns qualify!
You're correct on both statements. Roberts for a future 6th or 7th in '19 or '20, I'm game. There's enough on the roster that should be equal if not a mild upgrade & cheaper. MB will likely serve as the #3, as long as he gets the playbook down.

As for Penn, CLE & MIN come to mind as both could use a LT.

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  coogi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:57 pm

Dam blackness you just pissed off alot of fans..they want mack to "fuck off"

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  TheWiz76 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:05 pm

I cant imagine roberts gets traded. Who the he'll wants that contract for the level player he is?

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  Radman » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:08 pm

TheWiz76 wrote Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:05 pm:I cant imagine roberts gets traded. Who the he'll wants that contract for the level player he is?
Given what some WR’s are getting, it wouldn’t shock me. Not saying I think he’s worth it lol!

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  The Blackness » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:11 pm

TheWiz76 wrote Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:05 pm:I cant imagine roberts gets traded. Who the he'll wants that contract for the level player he is?
Unsure unless OAK opts to pay some of the deal which Im not certain is allowed w/ current CBA. He could just be a cap casualty come final 53. Just some rumblings I was told that might happen not concrete & will definitely happen.

Not to mention he was held out of the 1st PS gm so who knows.

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  Swifty » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:13 pm

Thanks Blackness

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  coogi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:14 pm

The Blackness wrote Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:11 pm:Unsure unless OAK opts to pay some of the deal which Im not certain is allowed w/ current CBA. He could just be a cap casualty come final 53. Just some rumblings I was told that might happen not concrete & will definitely happen.

Not to mention he was held out of the 1st PS gm so who knows.
So does this confirm seth will not be out producing jordy on the field this season??ive heard conflicting reports

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  danchase45 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:22 pm

A trade partner I could see would be the Redskins. With Jay Gruden there, it could be something that he trusts his brother on some of our borderline players. The two needs for the Redskins seem to be WR/RB with their recent injuries. I could see us trading Roberts/Washington to the Redskins for a 5th round pick.

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