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Re: 3 First Round Picks Next Year

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  kinz » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:51 am

I think the money situation is fine. Biggest problems I see are (1) who would want to come here, (2) how do you develop rookies in an environment like this, (3) we have poor quality coaches at O-line and OC and HC, and (4) we have an owner that meddles and may want Carr to continue at QB.

Its not the situation of having to rebuild from scratch that is so daunting, its that combined with the guys doing the rebuilding having a trail of questionable decisions in their wake.

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  HITMAN » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:54 am

kinz wrote Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:51 am:I think the money situation is fine. Biggest problems I see are (1) who would want to come here, (2) how do you develop rookies in an environment like this, (3) we have poor quality coaches at O-line and OC and HC, and (4) we have an owner that meddles and may want Carr to continue at QB.

Its not the situation of having to rebuild from scratch that is so daunting, its that combined with the guys doing the rebuilding having a trail of questionable decisions in their wake.
player's will always go somewhere if the money is good enough, this idea player's won't want to play for Gruden or the Raiders is absurd. They still flocked to Oakland when Al was running the show even though it was considered a total mess

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  kinz » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:56 am

HITMAN wrote Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:54 am: player's will always go somewhere if the money is good enough, this idea player's won't want to play for Gruden or the Raiders is absurd. They still flocked to Oakland when Al was running the show even though it was considered a total mess
You have fond memories of Al and FA?

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  Rte66BBQ » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:24 pm

Nice comeback by Eli and the Giants. Number 1 pick here we come.

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  HITMAN » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:51 pm

kinz wrote Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:56 am:You have fond memories of Al and FA?
Even Stevie Wonder could see that shit...

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  352Raider » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:09 pm

For what it's worth CBS has Finley the top ranked QB.

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  RI RAIDER » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:25 pm

We need a QB to tear it up and become the drafts next darling. Lets fucking high jack a team for some extra picks.

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  352Raider » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:44 pm

http://www.tankathon.com/nfl
http://www.tankathon.com/nfl/mock_draft
http://www.tankathon.com/nfl/full_draft
http://www.tankathon.com/nfl/power_rankings
This calculation assigns a value to every pick in the draft and ranks teams based on the sum of their pick values. The values for each pick were determined by Jimmy Johnson and are widely used.
https://hambotalk.files.wordpress.com/2 ... -chart.jpg

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  RunDMLee » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:35 pm

The dream for me would be trading Carr for a 1st then drafting Clelin Ferrell, Devin White, Josh Allen & Ryan Finley all in the 1st then get a RB & WR in the enxt couple pf rounds David Montgomery & Kelvin Harmon (Finley’s college go to guy)

Then signing Landon Collins & Anthony Barr if they hit FA big dream getting those two but you never know

Just wanted to add a crazy scenario what if the Giants are at No.2 & offer that for Carr then we can draft Ferrell & Bosa

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  MH_Raiders » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:00 pm

NY fans will burn the Giants to the ground if they trade the 1st round pick for Carr. Carr isn't even worth a late round pick right now, especially after everyone saw that 4th down play...

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  AutumnWind32 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:02 pm

RunDMLee wrote Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:35 pm:The dream for me would be trading Carr for a 1st then drafting Clelin Ferrell, Devin White, Josh Allen & Ryan Finley all in the 1st then get a RB & WR in the enxt couple pf rounds David Montgomery & Kelvin Harmon (Finley’s college go to guy)

Then signing Landon Collins & Anthony Barr if they hit FA big dream getting those two but you never know

Just wanted to add a crazy scenario what if the Giants are at No.2 & offer that for Carr then we can draft Ferrell & Bosa
I like it although I can’t see any way we get a top 10 pick for Carr. I do think we can get a first for him though

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  RunDMLee » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:16 pm

MH_Raiders wrote Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:00 pm:NY fans will burn the Giants to the ground if they trade the 1st round pick for Carr. Carr isn't even worth a late round pick right now, especially after everyone saw that 4th down play...
Late round pick is to much i think we’d have to do an Osweiler & trade him with a pick he is that bad it’s a crazy dream but just something to throw out there.

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  Silva-n-Mack » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:51 pm

kinz wrote Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:36 am:Raiders team needs:

QB, RT, G, WR, WR, WR, TE, RB, DE, DE, DT, ILB, OLB, S, S, CB.

I left off P and K since we can get those in FA.
need to look at the next 2 years projected Draft picks.. to figure out who to take. IF there is 1 amazing talent on OLINE this year and B talent next year and 10 Top talents of DE within 2 years. That might mean we use the top 2 picks this year on the Oline. or some shit like that

Might make for a unpopular draft.. deja vu K.miller > D.James! SHIT PISSES ME OFF STILL!

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  Silva-n-Mack » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:54 pm

352Raider wrote Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:44 pm:http://www.tankathon.com/nfl
http://www.tankathon.com/nfl/mock_draft
http://www.tankathon.com/nfl/full_draft
http://www.tankathon.com/nfl/power_rankings
This calculation assigns a value to every pick in the draft and ranks teams based on the sum of their pick values. The values for each pick were determined by Jimmy Johnson and are widely used.
https://hambotalk.files.wordpress.com/2 ... -chart.jpg
Cool to see ty. My question is.. What is the value of a 1st round Pick for the following year?

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  Silva-n-Mack » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:58 pm

MH_Raiders wrote Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:36 am:I don't think the young Bosa is worth the pick for that very reason.
And he will want the same kind of contract all money up front! Like his brother.

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