CarboRaider » Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:43 am
Since there is nothing left to discuss this season, let's start talking draft.Raiders Baby » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:15 am
Bosa is the type of player that shows up more on film as he does on the stat sheet. He makes his presence felt on the stat sheet, but what's really impressive is he's consistently in the right place doing the right thing.Jeremyturner1976 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:18 am
I think he is money first, fame second, a long list of other things, then football.TruR8r » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:24 am
95% of football players are about money now.Jeremyturner1976 wrote Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:18 am:I think he is money first, fame second, a long list of other things, then football.
Really not on board with either Bosa. It's like asking for a hold out.
HITMAN » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:26 am
I don't know if I would agree, the defense is in shambles, and they need some studs upfront... I think they go defense but I'm not sure I'd go Bosa firstIsmail86 wrote Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:21 am:I personally prefer Ferrell, but it doesn't make a difference. We're drafting a RT #1 overall anyway.
jtagg7754 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:35 am
Nick is the definition of an all around player. While he could improve his run technique (where his brother was absolutely stellar) everything else about him suggests he'll be an elite player in the NFL. Joey "produced" more b/c he stayed planted at the DE position. Nick has been all over this line and played many different roles and part of this was due to lack of talent at the DT position last year. He commands a double team everywhere he's at. His first step is one of the fastest I've ever seen. Even better than his brother's IMO. He's also not a one-trick pony. He has many different moves that is extremely beneficial to him b/c he is a cerebral player. Very smart.jtagg7754 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:36 am
And this is what I hate considering the excellent talent available on defense this year. Some guys who would normally be top 5 picks will fall b/c top end talent is big on that side of the ball.Attyla wrote Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:28 am:Gruden loves his offense
HITMAN » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:39 am
true, but it was defense that won him that Super Bowl...Attyla wrote Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:28 am:Gruden loves his offense
Robbykidd » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:40 am
Ferrell is a good player, but doesn’t have the athleticism of Bosa.Ismail86 wrote Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:21 am:I personally prefer Ferrell, but it doesn't make a difference. We're drafting a RT #1 overall anyway.
raiders93 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:59 am
Valid question and definitely the last name helps but I think with him mainly you know what you’re getting - he’ll come in and be a double digit sack guy pretty much instantly. He’s also polished - he’s got hands, he’s got counter moves, he’s got the first step and bend (probably better than his brother).CarboRaider wrote Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:43 am:Since there is nothing left to discuss this season, let's start talking draft.
A lot of people repeat the name Nick Bosa as our #1 draft pick, so I wanted to ask why. I have only watched him play 1 or 2 games and he looked fine. I really don't know him very well. I looked at his college stats and they don't floor me. He essentially has two years of production.
Compared to his brother, his stats in the first two years are worse. Nick had 13.5 sacks, Joey had 21. He has had injuries. His sacks this year were against Rutgers and Oregon St, which combined are 3-17 and then he got injured against TCU. In 2 years, he didn't have a single multi-sack game and 12 games without a single sack.
I am not trying to troll, I am just asking why are people so stoked on him? If his name was Nick Smith, will you guys still want him as the #1?
http://www.espn.com/college-football/pl ... /nick-bosa
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... osa-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... osa-1.html
RaidersAreOne » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:09 am
Because he is a more athletic Joey Bosa, and one of two blue chip prospects in this class. It's a no brainer for a team with the worst pass-rush in history.