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  chucker » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:58 pm

Raidernation24 wrote Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:41 pm:No, if we cut Jelly we dont owe him anything. His contract is only grtd for injury until March 17th. We would carry the dead cap but that doesnt mean we paid him out that amount.

Jelly’s 2.25 million roster bonus is fully guaranteed already. If he’s cut before his salary gets fully guaranteed in March then we’ll save 2.25 in salary and .25 in workout bonus. I believe we’ll keep him, and I believe we should keep him. He’s not a game changer but he plays a role that we can use.

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  Jeremyturner1976 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:00 pm

chucker wrote Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:58 pm:Jelly’s 2.25 million roster bonus is fully guaranteed already. If he’s cut before his salary gets fully guaranteed in March then we’ll save 2.25 in salary and .25 in workout bonus. I believe we’ll keep him, and I believe we should keep him. He’s not a game changer but he plays a role that we can use.

I almost wanted to flag his post to get you in here (kidding), chucker thanks for clearing that up. You are superb at understanding this stuff.

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  Raidernation24 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:03 pm

chucker wrote Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:58 pm:Jelly’s 2.25 million roster bonus is fully guaranteed already. If he’s cut before his salary gets fully guaranteed in March then we’ll save 2.25 in salary and .25 in workout bonus. I believe we’ll keep him, and I believe we should keep him. He’s not a game changer but he plays a role that we can use.

You are right, in that case I'd keep him as well. No reason to pay out his roster bonus and then cut him. He is basically on a 1 year prove it deal although I would disagree he is really worth the roster spot. He was terrible in his short time this season

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  haji81872 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:17 pm

No need to.do anything with him. Keep him until training camp and give him a chance to compete. Cut him if he isnt iup to snuff. Jelly is good against the run and we could have really used a healthy Ellis all year.

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  kinz » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:55 pm

Raidernation24 wrote Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:03 pm:You are right, in that case I'd keep him as well. No reason to pay out his roster bonus and then cut him. He is basically on a 1 year prove it deal although I would disagree he is really worth the roster spot. He was terrible in his short time this season

Dude was hurt, and big fat fuckers sitting on the couch with an injury don't look so good for a while when they come back. He is barely 28. He can get back in shape for the next season no problem.

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  Raidernation24 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:53 pm

kinz wrote Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:55 pm:Dude was hurt, and big fat fuckers sitting on the couch with an injury don't look so good for a while when they come back. He is barely 28. He can get back in shape for the next season no problem.

He's had 1 good year in his career. He isnt a good player overall and he is overpaid for what he provides

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  kinz » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:15 pm

Raidernation24 wrote Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:53 pm:He's had 1 good year in his career. He isnt a good player overall and he is overpaid for what he provides

I thought we were talking about Jelly, not Carr.

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  Raidernation24 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:17 am

kinz wrote Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:15 pm:I thought we were talking about Jelly, not Carr.

We are but I see your passion for Carr drove you to eventually turn this discussion that direction as well

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RaiderShane wrote Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:09 pm:Funny that applies only to guys you feel fit....

What does that mean?

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  beastmode24 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:56 am

cut jelly, he's a bum and he always will be

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  26 docofdeath » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:03 am

Might be a candidate for a pay cut, I hate to try and judge a player who was injured. Face it the extension was probably a bad move.

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  vegas34 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:26 am

We had the option to extend Jelly or Autry and yet again the front office chose the wrong player even though t was clear as day even to the average fan what the better option was.

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  beastmode24 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:29 am

vegas34 wrote Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:26 am:We had the option to extend Jelly or Autry and yet again the front office chose the wrong player even though t was clear as day even to the average fan what the better option was.

yep average fans like us know which players is better and drafting too!

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vegas34 wrote Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:26 am:We had the option to extend Jelly or Autry and yet again the front office chose the wrong player even though t was clear as day even to the average fan what the better option was.

this is why we are poorly run organization like this...

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  mad stork 83 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:43 am

Raidernation24 wrote Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:41 pm:No, if we cut Jelly we dont owe him anything. His contract is only grtd for injury until March 17th. We would carry the dead cap but that doesnt mean we paid him out that amount.

I only care about cap hits. I am unconcerned with Mark's bottom line.