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  Commit2Excel » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:23 pm

Jeevo wrote Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:07 pm:They just can't get over the Drake signing.
Every site seems to use the 2 year money, failing to mention that the $3 million first year hit is low, and when the higher hit kicks in the cap will almost certainly be much higher. Also bitching about moving out 3 large, 1 very large, O line contracts while at the same time saying the cap moves are not understandable seems off.

Yes, not sure why everyone is so convinced the Drake signing was a bad thing. They all seem to think he is the second RB and they are mistaken. I don't think Gruden will be using him just to spell Jacobs. Raiders see this guy as a legit offensive weapon. Remains to be seen if it will work out that way, but if it pans out, it could be a really good move.

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  black soul » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:59 pm

Jeevo wrote Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:07 pm:They just can't get over the Drake signing.
Every site seems to use the 2 year money, failing to mention that the $3 million first year hit is low, and when the higher hit kicks in the cap will almost certainly be much higher. Also bitching about moving out 3 large, 1 very large, O line contracts while at the same time saying the cap moves are not understandable seems off.

It's because however you cut it they paid a backup or 1b RB 8.5 mil guaranteed on a 2 year contract. Just because they kicked the can down the road so that 5.5 mil guaranteed will be paid out in 2022 doesn't make it cheaper.

It's not like the Raiders figured out some magic formula, it's 8.5 mil guaranteed.
The team won't feel it now but will feel it in 2022 when it's time to try to sign FA's or extend others. If the cap goes up in 2022 so will the price of FA's and the cost of re-signing players.

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  Jeevo » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:56 pm

Teams pay 1 guy more than we pay 2 so we didn't have to invent anything really.

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  black soul » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:34 am

Jeevo wrote Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:56 pm:Teams pay 1 guy more than we pay 2 so we didn't have to invent anything really.

Well, the reason why the other guy is cheaper is because he's on a rookie deal and was drafted with a 1st round pick. Not many teams spend a 1st rounder on a RB then decide to pay the back up 8.5 mil guaranteed but who cares right? The cap will go up in 2022....

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  Attyla » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:38 am

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  Jeevo » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:18 am

black soul wrote Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:34 am:Well, the reason why the other guy is cheaper is because he's on a rookie deal and was drafted with a 1st round pick. Not many teams spend a 1st rounder on a RB then decide to pay the back up 8.5 mil guaranteed but who cares right? The cap will go up in 2022....

We'll get 2 years at a reasonable price for 1a and 1b before we need to make a decision. Many teams pay their top 2 more than us so again, don't see a big problem here. Besides Jacobs hasn't been the model of health his first 2 seasons and insurance at the position in this offense seems okay to me.

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  rich72 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:33 pm

Jeevo wrote Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:18 am:We'll get 2 years at a reasonable price for 1a and 1b before we need to make a decision. Many teams pay their top 2 more than us so again, don't see a big problem here. Besides Jacobs hasn't been the model of health his first 2 seasons and insurance at the position in this offense seems okay to me.

Hopefully we will trade jalen richard for something, then maybe just grab an udfa rb after the draft.

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  Attyla » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:13 pm

Diesis wrote Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:12 am:Why is it that everyone on YouTube has to shout! No wonder he struggles to get subscribers.

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  deathstar » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:08 pm

Julian Edelmam says he is retired but Tom will get him to join the Bucs.

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  Attyla » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:01 am

deathstar wrote Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:08 pm:Julian Edelmam says he is retired but Tom will get him to join the Bucs.

https://twitter.com/wingoz/status/13817 ... 77865?s=20

tom makes average to below average guys look good.

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  Avon Barksdale » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:12 am

Commit2Excel wrote Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:23 pm:Yes, not sure why everyone is so convinced the Drake signing was a bad thing. They all seem to think he is the second RB and they are mistaken. I don't think Gruden will be using him just to spell Jacobs. Raiders see this guy as a legit offensive weapon. Remains to be seen if it will work out that way, but if it pans out, it could be a really good move.

It's just because it's the Raiders.

I get putting too much resources in the RB position but Drake has the speed to take it to the house which is what this offense is really missing and Gruden gets his guy that's pro ready who can block, run routes etc..

Put it this way, if Hudson was on Arizona and Gruden traded a 3rd for him and gave him a big extension to come to the Raiders the narrative would have been "why would you trade a 3rd for 32 year old center who the team was going to cut anyway and then give him a huge extension" but since Arizona made the move, it's pretty much seen as a great move by anyone associated with the NFL.