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Re: The QB discussion version of Groundhog Day (formerly ABC thread)

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  Jeremyturner1976 » Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:53 pm

Derek Carr NFL records:

Cried twice in 4 years of football, about football.

Two 4th and games.

There is no other QB in the league who has done this to my knowledge. Someone call Guiness.
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  Raidernation1979 » Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:00 pm

Jeremyturner1976 wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:53 pm:Derek Carr NFL records:

Cried twice in 4 years of football, about football.

Two 4th and games.

There is no other QB in the league who has done this to my knowledge. Someone call Guiness.
I think we can add checked down a Hail Mary and then made excuses for it.
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  Raider727 » Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:15 pm

if they ever make a book on excuses, Carr needs to be the author and the main character.....
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  352Raider » Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:18 pm

Does anyone recall Carr ever say he has a burning desire to win a title?

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  Raidernation1979 » Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:21 pm

352Raider wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:18 pm:Does anyone recall Carr ever say he has a burning desire to win a title?
It’s likely way down on his list of priorities as he claimed football is

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  Attyla » Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:44 pm

Raidernation1979 wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:21 pm:It’s likely way down on his list of priorities as he claimed football is
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Ryan could be right. Derek only needs to average:
339 yards per game
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5 TDs per game.

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  Raidernation1979 » Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:49 pm

Attyla wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:44 pm:https://clutchpoints.com/raiders-news-d ... owl-winner
Ryan could be right. Derek only needs to average:
339 yards per game
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5 TDs per game.

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Easy peazy. He just has to avg per game something he’s never done. “Championship”

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  Hellbound » Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:02 pm

352Raider wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:18 pm:Does anyone recall Carr ever say he has a burning desire to win a title?
He did say he could team up with people and win
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  Ivanavich » Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:04 pm

Z and McD look pretty smart now.

Fans wanted to tank for a 1st round QB. Turns out, there isn't one to draft.

Who knew? Carr > 1st round QB bust.

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  Attyla » Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:21 pm

Tell you what Ivan (and yes, you posting in the Carr thread encourages me to look) I will make you a serious bet. You say the first round QBs are busts. I will allow you to put your money where your mouth is....If even one of the top 3 QBs drafted in 2023 are starting in year 3, you stop posting forever. If none of the three is not starting (or number 1 on the depth chart but not starting due to injury) I will do the same. And everyone knows that is quite a thing for me to bet considering. That gives you three years to be right. And by start of 2026 if one is starting, by definition, that means not a bust.

Care to take me up on this or are you going to pretend you never posted that the first round QBs next year are busts and move onto another completely false narrative. How about it, economist? You claim you are never wrong, prove it.

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  Raidernation1979 » Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:31 pm

Attyla wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:21 pm:Tell you what Ivan (and yes, you posting in the Carr thread encourages me to look) I will make you a serious bet. You say the first round QBs are busts. I will allow you to put your money where your mouth is....If even one of the top 3 QBs drafted in 2023 are starting in year 3, you stop posting forever. If none of the three is not starting (or number 1 on the depth chart but not starting due to injury) I will do the same. And everyone knows that is quite a thing for me to bet considering. That gives you three years to be right. And by start of 2026 if one is starting, by definition, that means not a bust.

Care to take me up on this or are you going to pretend you never posted that the first round QBs next year are busts and move onto another completely false narrative. How about it, economist? You claim you are never wrong, prove it.
Do we have to wait 3 years? Can’t it be as simple as if one of the top 3 rookies accounts for more TDs than Carr next year he quits posting?
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  Attyla » Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:33 pm

Raidernation1979 wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:31 pm:Do we have to wait 3 years? Can’t it be as simple as if one of the top 3 rookies accounts for more TDs than Carr next year he quits posting?
he said bust. I am defining bust as not starting in year 3 for the bet's purposes. I am being very generous. He says he is never wrong, time to put up or shut up.

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  Raidernation1979 » Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:45 pm

Attyla wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:33 pm:he said bust. I am defining bust as not starting in year 3 for the bet's purposes. I am being very generous. He says he is never wrong, time to put up or shut up.
Odds are definitely in your favor. Going back 5-6 years at least one of the top 3 guys is still the starter on the drafted team.

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  Attyla » Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:52 pm

Raidernation1979 wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:45 pm:Odds are definitely in your favor. Going back 5-6 years at least one of the top 3 guys is still the starter on the drafted team.
I am not playing odds this time. He is running around telling us he is always right and running around saying the 1st round QBs next year will be busts.

That's fine, it is time he proves himself on the biggest stage around here. Come on Ivan, show is how big your balls are and prove you are right for all of us to see. The alternative is you are proven a fraud. So which is it?

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  Raidernation1979 » Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:04 pm

“The crowd patiently awaits”
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