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  HesterLayes » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:12 am

Attyla wrote Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:56 am:Jets are the tops according to the oddsmakers.

but both of your choices are in the mix. Washington, Tennessee round out the top five.

I just can’t quit seeing Jimmy G in New York,but what do I know.

Del Rio and Rivera are tough guys..along with Vrabel.Just don’t see him there #soft

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  DarthRaider » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:42 am

I think Carr goes to Carolina now. Frank Reich loves Carr.

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  silver_ghost » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:44 am

Amish Cabal wrote Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:59 am:Jets fans are loopy about Rodgers now with the hiring of Hackett. The oddsmakers may be right, but I don't see Derek going there at all. Bad offense, few weapons, and, well... all the meanies in NYC.

Derek Carr will be eaten alive by the media that covers the Jets plus the weather is not friendly. His best fit is probably in Houston or Carolina or Indy.

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  silver_ghost » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:03 am

Amish Cabal wrote Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:59 am:Jets fans are loopy about Rodgers now with the hiring of Hackett. The oddsmakers may be right, but I don't see Derek going there at all. Bad offense, few weapons, and, well... all the meanies in NYC.

Derek Carr will be eaten alive by the media that covers the Jets plus the weather is not friendly. His best fit is probably in Houston or Carolina or Indy.

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  signal » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:04 am

I sincerely hope I am dead wrong and all of you are right. A trade with any draft capital would be great.

Possibly my own personal take on Carr's value is clouding my judgement in regards to what other GMs might be thinking about the prospect of acquiring Carr.

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  chucker » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:17 am

signal wrote Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:04 am:I sincerely hope I am dead wrong and all of you are right. A trade with any draft capital would be great.

Possibly my own personal take on Carr's value is clouding my judgement in regards to what other GMs might be thinking about the prospect of acquiring Carr.

I think it's a mistake for any team to trade for Carr. However I watch teams make mistakes like that all the time, and I don't expect mistakes to stop - a couple of Wentz trades, and a Matt Ryan trade are recent examples. Add to that the fact that reputable reporters are saying that multiple teams are interested and it appears that there will be a market. I don't expect trade compensation to be big. I think you might entice more trade compensation by agreeing to pay the guaranteed amount from 2024 as a signing bonus, essentially making it a series of one year contracts for the acquiring team.

I also think that Carr will be happy to waive his no trade clause - I think he's too insecure to really want to hit FA and compete on the open market with other QBs.

We're all just spectators though, and I could be wrong.

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  BigJerk » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:56 am

Is He Traded YET ?? .... Ugh the wait is excruciating.

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  STHfrontrow » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:30 pm

Carr has value and other GM's will see that. A good defense this year would've had the Raiders in the playoffs most likely.

Other GM's will see that Carr had bottom ranking defenses for his career in Raiderland. They will be thinking that he can be immediately serviceable and win if the defense is more then capable.

I wouldn't be surprised if a 1st rd pick is ponied up and I'm happy Carr is moving on. Luckily for the Raiders 5-6 teams seem interested in his services.

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  Opoponax50 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:45 pm

signal wrote Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:32 am:I think Carr simply gets released. His contract is not anywhere in line with his production. The trade needed to happen last year. Timing matters.

I think that's what'll happen too.

Carr isn't the only average QB out there and no one in their right mind is going to give up draft capital when they can find a QB who maybe throws a TD or two less per season, but for about $30,000,000 less in cap space.

2020 was the season to trade him and move up in the draft. Last year would've not have been as good as 2020, but still better than this year.

At the end of the day, what really matters is that he's gone. I don't care if we get anything in trade for him.

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  Archaic » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:46 pm

BigJerk wrote Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:56 am:Is He Traded YET ?? .... Ugh the wait is excruciating.

I believe the market price for a one-year "prove it" contract for Carr is in the $5 to $10 million range.
If I am correct the Raiders will release him rather than trade him.
My guess is that Jimmy G's market value is about the same as Carr's and I figure both players will end up signing one-year deals.

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  3rd and Long » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:55 pm

Whatever team he ends up on, I'll go check their forums out and see if any names seem familiar. Such as SaintandBulldog, or JetandBulldog, or TexanandBulldog etc etc