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Raidernation1979 » Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:41 am
This article from 2020 kind of shows the cold weather is a thing for him. He’s historically badAttyla wrote Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:11 am:the cold weather thing is actually kind of not true over all. But I do expect him to play better this year.
GoodTimeCharlie » Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:59 am
At least we know Carr will be putting in the work this off-season. Studying tape like JaWalrus, and staying laser-focused with that electric mind of his.Jeremyturner1976 » Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:09 am
His contract fixes the coasting for paychecks issues we have seen is my guess GoodTimeCharlie. He is basically fighting to prove his cost year after year for the foreseeable future. Genius on the part of Ziegler.GoodTimeCharlie » Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:17 am
Appreciate us finally having brains in the front office. At the very least we finally have an organization that knows their roles. Zigs is the GM. McD knows his GM has final say when it comes to the allocation of talent. They speak to each other, but ultimately drive in their lanes.Jeremyturner1976 wrote Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:09 am:His contract fixes the coasting for paychecks issues we have seen is my guess GoodTimeCharlie. He is basically fighting to prove his cost year after year for the foreseeable future. Genius on the part of Ziegler.
Opoponax50 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:31 am
IMO, this is something QBs have or they don't. It can't be taught.signal wrote Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:52 am:Unlike many, I do think that such skills can be improved and polished. And success in practice can turn into success on the field.
352Raider » Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:36 am
Say what you want, but Carr leads the league in turnovers the last 5 years, fumbles are worse than interceptions.RaiderandBulldog wrote Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:08 pm:https://twitter.com/RaiderPosts/status/ ... 9899232261
Say what you what about Carr but that has proven himself to be durable. The best ability is availability,.
signal » Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:53 am
We disagree on this point. I do think improvisation can improve. And while it may sound odd I do think processing skills can improve also. It is about getting the right type of reps. And yes, you can create drills to improve improvisation, throwing on the run, scrambling....if you are get a ton of reps at doing just that.Opoponax50 wrote Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:31 am:IMO, this is something QBs have or they don't. It can't be taught.
The all time great QBs are/were able to either see the entire field in a flash of a moment and therefore able see what was going to happen before it happened. Then made the play or they were able to buy time and make something happen----or both. This applies to great pocket passers and improvisers.
It's the greatest intangible; something that can't be measured or predicted. It's something that can't be learned. Put another way, I can study quantum mechanics all I want, but I simply don't have the brain power to understand it.
Carr is what he is. If he had the ability to play like Mahomes, we would have seen it a long time ago.
raiders93 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:24 pm
I almost think with Carr it’s more of a mental thing where he just gets fixated on “execute the playcall”. Especially under Gruden he even outright said it a couple times: as long as I execute the calls the way coach wants I’m good (paraphrasing).signal wrote Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:53 am:We disagree on this point. I do think improvisation can improve. And while it may sound odd I do think processing skills can improve also. It is about getting the right type of reps. And yes, you can create drills to improve improvisation, throwing on the run, scrambling....if you are get a ton of reps at doing just that.
I do think QBs skillsets can improve over time if provided with reps for this type of scenarios but I don' think anyone does.
I think Carr would benefit from a drill like this:
You take most probable end positions for WRs after routes are run for every play. You pick one of those plays and the WRs go to those points on the field. You send the secondary out there....with a man on each WR and you place the rest of the secondary where they would most probably end up given the routes taken. Carr is turned away from this and sees none of it. You also place three DL along the line of scrimmage...anywhere along that line they want to be. Before the drill they decide which one can start chasing after the QB after one second, the next after three seconds and the next after five seconds. Carr also does not know which ones were assigned what time limit.
Drill begins with a whistle and Carr (five yards back of the line scrimmage) turns to see the field and players for the first time and must deliver a pass to that WR that is able to get open.
This drill will make both WRs and Carr have to improvise in order to make a play. And it will make the secondary have to react and respond to the WRs who are trying to get open..
I think this drill would be helpful because there has been times where I see WRs and Carr give up on a play....if the D guessed right and were sitting on it...there seems to be no wish to begin to improvise and STILL make the play. They give up. But Mahommes and Wilson, don't always give up and some of their biggest plays in games are those where the D took away everything ....but then the QB and the WRs began to improvise....and they STILL make the play.
This little drill would get Carr and his WRs a sense that a play is never over....not if you don't quit on it...and if they have a lot of reps...they may even work out some strategies so as to increase their chances to be on the same page as the improvisation is occurring. AND it is in these strategies where it becomes less about mere improvisation and becomes more about technique, and a sort of unwritten game plan when plays break down. It becomes like the second part of any designed play.
I think this sort of drill would cement in Carr and the WRS...that a play is never over...that you never give up ....even if the D closes down the play written....you then go about improvising.
And JUST AS IMPORTANT, it gives the secondary work against a QB and WRs who are improvising to make a play...something they will see in game time....when facing the likes of Mahommes and Wilson. They to will develop technique and further strategies on how best to cover WRs improvising after the called play did not work.
Jeremyturner1976 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:25 pm
I would just add, there is a huge difference between finding a receiver and finding the right receiver. Touchdowns come from the latter, yards from the first.Opoponax50 wrote Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:31 am:IMO, this is something QBs have or they don't. It can't be taught.
The all time great QBs are/were able to either see the entire field in a flash of a moment and therefore able see what was going to happen before it happened. Then made the play or they were able to buy time and make something happen----or both. This applies to great pocket passers and improvisers.
It's the greatest intangible; something that can't be measured or predicted. It's something that can't be learned. Put another way, I can study quantum mechanics all I want, but I simply don't have the brain power to understand it.
Carr is what he is. If he had the ability to play like Mahomes, we would have seen it a long time ago.
signal » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:47 pm
Agree that right now it is a "mental" thing that needs to get broken by giving him actual reps that can break that fixation. That can open up another area where he can find success in practice. And it will carry over in game. But because he rarely attempts it....he does not feel comfortable. He merely needs to experience it on a daily basis through reps and experience success doing it....and gain comfort and build chemistry with his WRs...and trust me, he will go about doing it more during games.raiders93 wrote Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:24 pm:I almost think with Carr it’s more of a mental thing where he just gets fixated on “execute the playcall”. Especially under Gruden he even outright said it a couple times: as long as I execute the calls the way coach wants I’m good (paraphrasing).
With every QB there’s a balancing act between the safer, mechanical execution and the higher-stakes playmaking. Late in games when we’re trailing there’s tons of examples of carr loosening up a bit and becoming more of a playmaker but that’s about the extent of his balancing act. Mechanical until it is absolutely necessary to make a critical play. Even then it doesn’t always happen.
signal » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:55 pm
Hope so.Attyla wrote Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:54 pm:Maybe McDaniels is the QB whisperer that Gruden claimed to be.
Attyla » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:59 pm
has to be one of two things, either we score a lot of points even late in the year or we have to control the time of possession. One way allows the defense to play like they have been and the other keeps the defense off the field to keep the numbers down. I just do not see the group we are trotting out there being able to hold their own if they are on the field a lotsignal wrote Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:55 pm:Hope so.
Carr has to take it to another level IF the Raiders are going to be serious contenders.
GoodTimeCharlie » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:10 pm
I believe a quarterback can improve in any attribute. Hell, even hand-size can improve for a short spell. Josh Allen is the poster-child for improvement. He came into the league as a better version of Trubisky and transformed himself into an absolutely “elite” quarterback.signal wrote Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:53 am:We disagree on this point. I do think improvisation can improve. And while it may sound odd I do think processing skills can improve also. It is about getting the right type of reps. And yes, you can create drills to improve improvisation, throwing on the run, scrambling....if you are get a ton of reps at doing just that.
I do think QBs skillsets can improve over time if provided with reps for this type of scenarios but I don' think anyone does.
I think Carr would benefit from a drill like this:
You take most probable end positions for WRs after routes are run for every play. You pick one of those plays and the WRs go to those points on the field. You send the secondary out there....with a man on each WR and you place the rest of the secondary where they would most probably end up given the routes taken. Carr is turned away from this and sees none of it. You also place three DL along the line of scrimmage...anywhere along that line they want to be. Before the drill they decide which one can start chasing after the QB after one second, the next after three seconds and the next after five seconds. Carr also does not know which ones were assigned what time limit.
Drill begins with a whistle and Carr (five yards back of the line scrimmage) turns to see the field and players for the first time and must deliver a pass to that WR that is able to get open.
This drill will make both WRs and Carr have to improvise in order to make a play. And it will make the secondary have to react and respond to the WRs who are trying to get open..
I think this drill would be helpful because there has been times where I see WRs and Carr give up on a play....if the D guessed right and were sitting on it...there seems to be no wish to begin to improvise and STILL make the play. They give up. But Mahommes and Wilson, don't always give up and some of their biggest plays in games are those where the D took away everything ....but then the QB and the WRs began to improvise....and they STILL make the play.
This little drill would get Carr and his WRs a sense that a play is never over....not if you don't quit on it...and if they have a lot of reps...they may even work out some strategies so as to increase their chances to be on the same page as the improvisation is occurring. AND it is in these strategies where it becomes less about mere improvisation and becomes more about technique, and a sort of unwritten game plan when plays break down. It becomes like the second part of any designed play.
I think this sort of drill would cement in Carr and the WRS...that a play is never over...that you never give up ....even if the D closes down the play written....you then go about improvising.
And JUST AS IMPORTANT, it gives the secondary work against a QB and WRs who are improvising to make a play...something they will see in game time....when facing the likes of Mahommes and Wilson. They to will develop technique and further strategies on how best to cover WRs improvising after the called play did not work.
signal » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:22 pm
I hear you. And for the most part, that is exactly where I am with Carr. BUT, this new regime does have me excited and am just hoping that they find a way to unlock something different from Carr.GoodTimeCharlie wrote Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:10 pm:I believe a quarterback can improve in any attribute. Hell, even hand-size can improve for a short spell. Josh Allen is the poster-child for improvement. He came into the league as a better version of Trubisky and transformed himself into an absolutely “elite” quarterback.
So why can’t Carr?
Dedication and Intelligence. We are entering year 9 with a quarterback who has been a carbon copy of himself year after year. Sometimes we catch some fortunate breaks and Carr lays it all on the line like in 2016. And sometimes the breaks don’t go our way and Carr puts in a decent to good effort for half a season. Like the other 7 years. 2016 was a total outlier. We’ve seen the best that Carr can be, and we will never see that again.
Year fucking 9.
Same quarterback. Same Carr. Same small brain. Same small heart. Same damn story.