- Congrats: 2 These Raider Fans gave chucker high fives (total 2):
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mranquales » Sat May 14, 2022 2:04 am
Porter was an incredible route runner (under the wing of Rice and Brown) and could break tackles. Porter would have had a 10x better career if not for our terrible QB situation in that era.rich72 wrote Fri May 13, 2022 8:29 pm:Id say is a bigger version of jerry porter.
Attyla » Sat May 14, 2022 4:44 am
2020 was worse in one respect. We should have known more. We had more resources. And we had far greater need so getting it right was paramount.RAIDERS1967 wrote Sat May 14, 2022 1:28 am: We are taking about the DRAFT PICKS , nothing else. That has nothing to do with the status of the team at that time. The 1976 picks were worst.
CWood24 » Sat May 14, 2022 7:00 am
Fit is everything in any sportfellow59 wrote Fri May 13, 2022 4:49 pm:Fit is a shitty fan excuse. The guy was a good player. There's no compelling argument that he was some kind of terrible fit. The guy was the 4th best receiver on the team, young, and cheap. It was a crummy trade.
Attyla » Sat May 14, 2022 7:20 am
first I agree, fit matters a lot. Second, I agree, it was a good trade.CWood24 wrote Sat May 14, 2022 7:00 am:Fit is everything in any sport
It was a good trade as Edwards doesn't fit what we’re doing & 100% didn't fit with our safety first QB
chucker » Sat May 14, 2022 7:47 am
Personally I would have preferred to keep Edwards, although I understand that it would have been difficult to get him on the field. I think working in a group with Adams (with a similar profile) would have benefitted him a lot. I don't like giving up too early on players, especially WRs. Davante Adams was considered a bust after his second year, and then turned into one of the best in the game. I was looking forward to seeing if Edwards could make strides by learning from Adams.Attyla » Sat May 14, 2022 7:52 am
this is not unexpected when you clean house. I am actually surprised at some of the players who were retained, particularly on defense.chucker wrote Sat May 14, 2022 7:47 am:Personally I would have preferred to keep Edwards, although I understand that it would have been difficult to get him on the field. I think working in a group with Adams (with a similar profile) would have benefitted him a lot. I don't like giving up too early on players, especially WRs. Davante Adams was considered a bust after his second year, and then turned into one of the best in the game. I was looking forward to seeing if Edwards could make strides by learning from Adams.
I do think that Edwards' lack of time on ST was a major contributor in this though. If a WR is not among your teams top three targets - he probably needs to contribute on ST and there is no way that Edwards was going to be in a conversation with Adams, Renfrow and Waller with respect to targets barring injury. A RB might then be next on the list.
JRaider17 » Sat May 14, 2022 8:00 am
Yeah I think the lack of ST here really hurt him.chucker wrote Sat May 14, 2022 7:47 am:Personally I would have preferred to keep Edwards, although I understand that it would have been difficult to get him on the field. I think working in a group with Adams (with a similar profile) would have benefitted him a lot. I don't like giving up too early on players, especially WRs. Davante Adams was considered a bust after his second year, and then turned into one of the best in the game. I was looking forward to seeing if Edwards could make strides by learning from Adams.
I do think that Edwards' lack of time on ST was a major contributor in this though. If a WR is not among your teams top three targets - he probably needs to contribute on ST and there is no way that Edwards was going to be in a conversation with Adams, Renfrow and Waller with respect to targets barring injury. A RB might then be next on the list.
NoClapsPlease » Sat May 14, 2022 8:16 am
Hahaharich72 wrote Fri May 13, 2022 11:46 pm:BS he had like a 17 YPC. Maybe carr just didnt see him on the field because he doesnt go through progressions.
SkullCrusher » Sat May 14, 2022 8:24 am
Yeah he was a tweaner and with what we should replace him with 2 WR types, the blocking WR and the burner, each bringing their strength to the called play vs them being a volume wr. Assuming the Raiders don't plan to pay 4 high-end targets.Jeevo wrote Fri May 13, 2022 5:11 pm:We have 3 hundred catch guys to feed and McD uses his backs and doesn't run a lot of 3 wr sets. Edwards would have been the #4 or 5 option.
fellow59 » Sat May 14, 2022 8:44 am
This is nonsense - Cole has had 6 seasons with only 2 of them comparable to what Edwards did in his one non-injury season. There is little to no reason to think Cole is better and zero reason to call Edwards garbage. Steal? Yeah, we were robbed at least a couple rounds - we should have gotten a 3rd at a minimum.BoKnows81 wrote Fri May 13, 2022 6:28 pm:Stop. Bryan Edwards is hot garbage. Cole and Robinson are for sure better. It was a steal of a trade
fellow59 » Sat May 14, 2022 8:47 am
Fit may be important. Fit, as described by fans is used as a convenience. There is zero problem with the fit of a young receiver who can make contested catches.CWood24 wrote Sat May 14, 2022 7:00 am:Fit is everything in any sport
It was a good trade as Edwards doesn't fit what we’re doing & 100% didn't fit with our safety first QB
black soul » Sat May 14, 2022 8:53 am
He just fits a specific play style, there have been a number of players that fit the mold of a big bodied WR that doesn't get much separation downfield having consistent success.JRaider17 wrote Sat May 14, 2022 8:24 am:I do think Edwards was misused here, not sure a big WR who can't get separation should be a consistent down field target.