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Young looks good but size is concerning
My preference is sign a vet like Minshew and draft a QB if the right guy is there in the next few drafts.
Don't really matter though as we're fk'd anyway when The Turd returns next season and beyond
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He can block too.
Dump Carr's salary for 2023, get a reasonably priced veteran QB looking for a new home (not named Baker or Wentz), collect draft capital and get "the guy" in 2024.
caleb is lining himself up to be #1 2024
it would have to be a disastrous scenario for the raiders to get high enough in '24 to get him
the only way to make that happen is to be in top 10 in '23, and trade down to get extra #1 and additional picks in '24
as i realize i'm talking about '24 draft...
back to tomorrow. i see raiders winning a few, and will finish between 10-13 in next year's draft
bpa
i'm against it though. i'm more of a fan of bpa, and if not there, trade down and get more picks. i don't like trading up unless it's a can't miss scenario...and since 50% of 1st rounders bust, there aren't many can't miss scenarios
i'm not a stroud or young guy. which won't matter as i think raiders finish in 10-13 overall range.
i want a big qb.
still in the levis camp until further notice, but am becoming more intrigued with tanner mckee/stanford in r3
to be honest, the way to improve any defense is two fold. You have to be able to stop the pass, and that is with good corners and a good pass rush. And you have to get them off the field and that is by owning the clock on offense. The Bears had that stifling defense but they also had the ability to own the clock with a great running game. Jacobs has proven to be able to do the former, and Maxx has given us some of the prior. We just have to piece together the rest to make us viable.
But to do that in one off season given our oline issues? Not happening, we are at least 2 seasons from being a viable consistent contender
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Young looks good but size is concerning
My preference is sign a vet like Minshew and draft a QB if the right guy is there in the next few drafts.
Don't really matter though as we're fk'd anyway when The Turd returns next season and beyond
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Yep, get a good D so he can finally put up or shut up. It's a win win, either he succeeds and we go far into playoffs or he fails and we're close enough to trade up for Williams in 2024.RenoRaiders75 wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:06 pm:I think we keep Carr and we dump every pick into the D and if we get more we put it in the D we working on D line and LBs first. They we get 1 or 2 for secondary.
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He can block too.
Dump Carr's salary for 2023, get a reasonably priced veteran QB looking for a new home (not named Baker or Wentz), collect draft capital and get "the guy" in 2024.
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caleb is lining himself up to be #1 2024
it would have to be a disastrous scenario for the raiders to get high enough in '24 to get him
the only way to make that happen is to be in top 10 in '23, and trade down to get extra #1 and additional picks in '24
as i realize i'm talking about '24 draft...
back to tomorrow. i see raiders winning a few, and will finish between 10-13 in next year's draft
bpa
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yeah I definitely don’t want to be in position to get him next year.that would mean we suck again.no buenoTallMarvin wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:26 pm:watching the game now here in la
caleb is lining himself up to be #1 2024
it would have to be a disastrous scenario for the raiders to get high enough in '24 to get him
the only way to make that happen is to be in top 10 in '23, and trade down to get extra #1 and additional picks in '24
as i realize i'm talking about '24 draft...
back to tomorrow. i see raiders winning a few, and will finish between 10-13 in next year's draft
bpa
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A bunch of defensive rookies are going to turn the team into a contender? Lol…RenoRaiders75 wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:06 pm:I think we keep Carr and we dump every pick into the D and if we get more we put it in the D we work on D line and LBs first. Them we get 1 or 2 for secondary.
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cuz it has worked out like that for literally decades?live.B.A.raida wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:28 pm:A bunch of defensive rookies are going to turn the team into a contender? Lol…
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there is a scenario in '23 draft if raiders stay top 4 and one of the qb's fall they can trade out and pick up a 1st and extra picks...that would give them ammo to move up in '24.HesterLayes wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:27 pm:yeah I definitely don’t want to be in position to get him next year.that would mean we suck again.no bueno
i'm against it though. i'm more of a fan of bpa, and if not there, trade down and get more picks. i don't like trading up unless it's a can't miss scenario...and since 50% of 1st rounders bust, there aren't many can't miss scenarios
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No doubt, draft all defense and watch the Vegas Raiders win the SB next season lead by defensive rookie juggernauts!Attyla wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:33 pm:cuz it has worked out like that for literally decades?
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Have to zero in on 3 or so QBs and make some crafty plans on how to get in the top of the draft without tanking. I'm not sold on the QB talent at the top of this draft--plan ahead for 2024. Trade, trade, trade. Not every team in the top 5 wants a QB. Sometimes D is a bigger need and a team willingly trades down if they get the right offer for the draft pick, etc. We've been waiting a long time for an elite QB and it looks like 2024 will have some available (depending on who declares), so go for it.TallMarvin wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:26 pm:watching the game now here in la
caleb is lining himself up to be #1 2024
it would have to be a disastrous scenario for the raiders to get high enough in '24 to get him
the only way to make that happen is to be in top 10 in '23, and trade down to get extra #1 and additional picks in '24
as i realize i'm talking about '24 draft...
back to tomorrow. i see raiders winning a few, and will finish between 10-13 in next year's draft
bpa
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houston is definitely looking qb. and carolina would be insane not to at least consider it.Atlasffa wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:38 pm:Have to zero in on 3 or so QBs and make some crafty plans on how to get in the top of the draft without tanking. I'm not sold on the QB talent at the top of this draft--plan ahead for 2024. Trade, trade, trade. Not every team in the top 5 wants a QB. Sometimes D is a bigger need and a team willingly trades down if they get the right offer for the draft pick, etc. We've been waiting a long time for an elite QB and it looks like 2024 will have some available (depending on who declares), so go for it.
i'm not a stroud or young guy. which won't matter as i think raiders finish in 10-13 overall range.
i want a big qb.
still in the levis camp until further notice, but am becoming more intrigued with tanner mckee/stanford in r3
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you have to roll the dice for sure. Defense is only gonna get better with an infuse of talent but to assume one draft is gonna recreate the 85 bears is just not realistic.live.B.A.raida wrote Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:37 pm: No doubt, draft all defense and watch the Vegas Raiders win the SB next season lead by defensive rookie juggernauts!
to be honest, the way to improve any defense is two fold. You have to be able to stop the pass, and that is with good corners and a good pass rush. And you have to get them off the field and that is by owning the clock on offense. The Bears had that stifling defense but they also had the ability to own the clock with a great running game. Jacobs has proven to be able to do the former, and Maxx has given us some of the prior. We just have to piece together the rest to make us viable.
But to do that in one off season given our oline issues? Not happening, we are at least 2 seasons from being a viable consistent contender
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