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rich72 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:05 pm
They would both be in the Super Bowl this year if the 9ers didnt have QB injuries during the game.Dark Horse wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:55 am:Stiddy did just that. 584 yards and 4 TDs vs. two teams that went to conference championships in his first two starts
GUYDON » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:17 pm
I dont know, what is an elite qb worth?Oaktownonly wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:40 pm:Can we honestly afford Rodgers? Not just his salary but will we lose picks? I don't want to lose picks.
HesterLayes » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:00 pm
Well as you know we would be swapping firsts so not terrible..the first next year would sting a littleDrDUne wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:03 pm:Yes, they’d lose picks. The Packers were very interested in Waller last season too (reportedly offered a 2nd for him). It’s entirely possible any trade could also go include players.
In the Dubow proposal above - it would cost the Raiders
2023 1st
2024 1st
2023 2nd (value of Waller)
2023 3rd
For Bryce Young. Quite a haul for a rookie QB. Might be great, might not be. That’s why I asked in an earlier post if people were willing to give up that kind of capital for a rookie. People in that twitter thread seem to be fine with that. Stroud / Young likely won’t be there at 7..
DrDUne » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:08 pm
Right, but you end up with Young in a similar way that you end up with Rodgers if giving away the 2023 1st. A 2023/2024 1st, 2023 3rd and Darren Waller could be what it costs to get Bryce Young OR Aaron Rodgers. The compensation based on those hypotheticals would be very similar.HesterLayes wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:00 pm:Well as you know we would be swapping firsts so not terrible..the first next year would sting a little
HesterLayes » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:11 pm
Man,I would love our future if we got Young.Doubt it happens,but I would be ecstatic.Everybody says oh the QBs next year are better.Maybe.Obviously no one knows.DrDUne wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:08 pm:Right, but you end up with Young in a similar way that you end up with Rodgers if giving away the 2023 1st. A 2023/2024 1st, 2023 3rd and Darren Waller could be what it costs to get Bryce Young OR Aaron Rodgers. The compensation based on those hypotheticals would be very similar.
The question is do you send that kind of haul for an unproven rookie QB but on a cheap rookie contract, or do you send it for a proven QB but expensive enough that it affects the rest of the roster potential?
I hope that if the Raiders draft a rookie QB that they don’t send the farm to get them.
rich72 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:18 pm
We arent in the position to get a luxury QB. We have far too many holes on Defense and the O-line to fill.GUYDON wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:17 pm:I dont know, what is an elite qb worth?
Avg 32 tds per season vs our last guy 24 per season.
Avg 7 Ints a year vs last guy 11 per year
Avg 103 qbr vs last guy 91
The list goes on and on and on.
Aaron was 62% passing td in the redzone in a DOWN year for him Carr was 42%
I mean what is the price for an elite QB that likely has 3-5 good years left?
He said he expected he would have to restructure if he was traded.
It might cost something but he has been NFL MVP 4X in 10 years.
Imo he give us the best chance at a Super Bowl, and thats all I care about.
Sold My Soul » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:24 pm
Trading for Rodgers would just be another example to me of...Dark Horse » Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:08 pm
Who the Fook is Sam Barrington?DrDUne wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:33 pm:Adams having some fun with us.
https://twitter.com/tae15adams/status/1 ... OfK3mhutug
https://twitter.com/sam_barrington_/sta ... OfK3mhutug
Liked by Adams. ^
DSOTM » Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:55 pm
As long as it doesn’t involve the #7 pick bring him inDrDUne wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:33 pm:Adams having some fun with us.
https://twitter.com/tae15adams/status/1 ... OfK3mhutug
https://twitter.com/sam_barrington_/sta ... OfK3mhutug
Liked by Adams. ^
raiders93 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:09 pm
Right with you on Young. Pretty confident he’s the next superstar QB. While it wouldn’t be cheap to move up and we’ve got holes… get your mahomes/allen and things start to fall into place.HesterLayes wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:11 pm:Man,I would love our future if we got Young.Doubt it happens,but I would be ecstatic.Everybody says oh the QBs next year are better.Maybe.Obviously no one knows.
The kid is special.Smart,tough,will chew an ass if needed,and can make any throw
HesterLayes » Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:09 pm
I would assume part of it would be a swap..so we’d still have a first,just not 7.DSOTM wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:55 pm:As long as it doesn’t involve the #7 pick bring him in
sdraider85 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:43 pm
He needs alot of work still but the guy basically had no one to throw to. I will be interested to see how he fares if the Bears actually try to build around him.rich72 wrote Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:11 pm: Fields sucks, I wouldnt want him at all.
ELCAraiderfan » Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:33 am
Who wouldn't have wanted to see Rodgers at qb for the Raiders this year? Anyone?