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HesterLayes » Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:44 pm
Obviously things will change,but in the mocks I have read,Levis is dropping like a turd.CWood24 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:52 pm
McKee isnt that great i haven't seen him above the 3rd roundHesterLayes wrote Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:44 pm:Obviously things will change,but in the mocks I have read,Levis is dropping like a turd.
Most have young,stroud, McKee,and Richardson ahead of him.Interesting.
HesterLayes » Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:56 pm
People make fun of Walter football,but Charlie Campbell is usually one of the most accurate guys on the web. He predicted the raiders picks like four years in a row.anyway,he has McKee as the third best I believe and going in the top 10-15 I believe.CWood24 wrote Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:52 pm:McKee isnt that great i haven't seen him above the 3rd round
Raidernation1979 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:22 pm
I’ve only seen one that has Levis out of the top 10. A lot of them have us taken Bryan Bessie from Clemson.HesterLayes wrote Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:44 pm:Obviously things will change,but in the mocks I have read,Levis is dropping like a turd.
Most have young,stroud, McKee,and Richardson ahead of him.Interesting.
sooperkool » Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:31 pm
Hmmm... I dunno, he's not very accurate and throws a lot of pics, I don't know how well his skillset translates to the NFL. He would be an intriguing a project but a project nonethelesskramNAVILLUS wrote Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:11 am:If the Raiders were to draft a QB next year, I want them to take Anthony Richardson based off pure arm talent. Then throw in his elite physical traits... he will be the next Josh Allen IMO. Let him sit behind Carr for a year or two and let him refine his mental game - he could be something special.
Raidernation1979 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:32 pm
Richardson is terrible. He can run but he’s certainly not a passer.sooperkool » Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:42 pm
If I had to choose, I would go for Drake Maye but he isn't coming out for a year or two.Atlasffa » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:49 pm
Apparently he hasn't yet decided if he will enter the draft or not, but did say he would play in the bowl game.HesterLayes wrote Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:25 pm:I watch a lot of sec ball so I don’t catch much west coast games.
Great stats,leads the country in yards.I dont think they play much d out there though lol
Atlasffa » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:02 pm
The below quote is from a fairly long write-up about the draft prospects of Penix. The positives are quite extensive. This is how the article ends:The bottom line is always the best ability is availability and that is probably the biggest question. He's a solid player, but will his body hold up to the rigors of the NFL. The medical evaluations will be important. If he falls to the 2nd day, IMO worth the pick.Current Draft Projection for Washington QB Michael Penix Jr.
If we’re talking about play on the field alone, Penix can be a first-round talent in the 2023 NFL Draft. He has the requisite creation capacity and size to go along with high-level arm talent and general accuracy. He’s an adept processor who sees the field quickly, and he has the toughness to will his team ahead. He’s arguably a top-five QB in the 2023 class.
The large, unavoidable, and overarching issue with Penix is his medical history. He has four season-ending injuries on his record, including two ACL tears and an injury to his throwing shoulder. NFL Combine medicals will shed more light on these injuries and how they might affect Penix’s professional outlook. But it’s a notable red flag that will assuredly turn some teams away (or at least bump Penix’s round value down).
How injuries are ultimately viewed is a team-by-team affair, so it’s not out of the question that one team might see Penix as a QB worth gambling on. All it takes is one. But it’s just as likely that teams might let Penix fall into Day 2 before someone becomes willing to swipe him up at plus value.
All of this swerves around Penix’s profile on the field, however, which is exceptional. He can still cut down on “arm arrogance moments” at times, and his lower-body mechanics do need some work. But the arm talent, athleticism, accuracy, processing capacity, and toughness all tell of a QB who can be a solid NFL starter — if he can stay healthy and at full strength.
BlackShield » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:08 pm
looks like this thread is picking upBe_Easy_25 » Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:24 am
I don’t see any Elways, P. Mannings or Lucks in this draft.BlackShield » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:11 am
fair take except for 1 part...levis does have the intangibles, to go with the size. what he needs is a qb coach [and a winning vet qb to mentor him for a year]Be_Easy_25 wrote Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:24 am:I don’t see any Elways, P. Mannings or Lucks in this draft.
Hell, I don’t think I see a Burrow.
Are any of these guys even going to go #1?
Each one of the main 3 that are talked about is limited and is not going to be a simple plug and play.
Bryce and CJ don’t have the arm talent I like.
Levis doesn’t have the intangibles I like and seems like another Carr to me.
Maybe I take Levis and sit him a year?
None of these guys is worth tanking for.
kramNAVILLUS » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:26 am
I would rather draft a guy that throws the ball downfield with a lower completion percentage than a guy that has a "high" completion percentage but just throws bubble & swing passes. This was the same argument against Josh Allen coming out. Richardson has an elite arm - just needs to sit behind a veteran for a year or two as I noted previously. IMO take the guy with the elite arm versus a guy that excels at throwing the ball 2 yards downfield.silver_ghost wrote Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:42 pm:You would draft a QB with a 53% completion percentage to replace Carr. One can but he will be 3rd stringer behind Carr, and Stidham - not an ideal position to learn anything in the NFL.
Raidernation1979 » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:29 am
Sorry Richardson is horrible throwing on all levels from what I’ve seen. I’d prefer a more pure passer who can maneuver than a running back with a big armkramNAVILLUS wrote Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:26 am:I would rather draft a guy that throws the ball downfield with a lower completion percentage than a guy that has a "high" completion percentage but just throws bubble & swing passes. This was the same argument against Josh Allen coming out. Richardson has an elite arm - just needs to sit behind a veteran for a year or two as I noted previously. IMO take the guy with the elite arm versus a guy that excels at throwing the ball 2 yards downfield.