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  rich72 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:16 pm

Raiders Baby wrote Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:53 am:The flexibility is good news, but only if we exercise it. Keeping a game manager on the roster at the price he will command post June 1 is a mistake — by cutting him before then, we eat about $8m next year but save $29m, $43m, $43m. If we don’t cut him, we will pay him $35m next year.

Posting a breakdown for reference, I’m sure most posters know the basics of his contract by now but always good to have a reminder. This is a smart contract, but it’s only as smart as the people pulling the strings — we have to exercise our ability to exit, otherwise it’s no different than a more standard contract of similar value

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If you show the post june 1st numbers, his dead money drops to below 2 million. Basically nothing in the NFL.

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  KennyPowers » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:21 pm

raiders1988xyz wrote Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:37 pm:think how good our offense would be if we have

mahomes
herbert
josh allen
jackson

back there as our quarterback

we would be easily putting up 30+ points

carr can’t

Mahomes scored 17 against an 0-2 team and Herbert scored 10 against Jacksonville. How is scoring less against worse teams better or an improvement.

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  Opoponax50 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:42 pm

KennyPowers wrote Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:21 pm:Mahomes scored 17 against an 0-2 team and Herbert scored 10 against Jacksonville. How is scoring less against worse teams better or an improvement.

Every QB has a bad games during the course of a season, even Mahomes. But is there any legitimate question as to whether or not hel'll bounce back? No, there isn't.

Herbert played with torn cartilage in his ribs. Right now, the Charger coaching staff is being criticized for not allowing him to heal--for not taking the long term approach. His range of motion is limited and so he can't physically play the game the way he's capable of.

We're in year 9 of Derek Carr and we're still in the 19-23 ppg that he's good for. The personnel we've kept and acquired to support him are supposed to be producing somewhere in the 30 ppg range. This was an all-in season and we're 0-3.

There wasn't supposed to be a 2.5 year learning curve like what happened with Gruden's system. We had to hit the ground running with little room for error. That hasn't happened.

It's not all Carr's fault. There's been some highly questionable playcalling and guys like Davante Adams can't blow easy yards by failing to keep their feet in bounds. Renfrow can't fumble multiple times per game and Waller can't go 0-3 on tough catches. But in the end, far more often than not, you win tight games based on your QBs play.

Again, we're 0-3.

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  Attyla » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:01 pm

until we win one game it is hard to bash the former MVP or a guy who has broken cartilage in his chest.

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  srv5490 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:57 pm

FlyBono24 wrote Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:36 pm:Maybe if you actually watched the game and not just look at stats.

Carr had 2 TDs and 1 INT.

If Waller could CATCH the fucking ball.... that's 4 TDs and 0 INTs.... and most likely a W

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  vtraider » Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:34 am

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qPAHpy-GaqE

Pretty good breakdown of the 2 pt conversion attempt. Yes he says Carr under threw the pass. But also that it was tipped. Idk if it was under thrown or just a really good defensive play. They get paid to win too after all

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  Raiders Baby » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:42 am

Coloradoraider wrote Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:58 pm:The “D did their job?” They allowed 3 touchdowns in the first 3 possessions.

Game over.

I thought Carr was the come from behind master? Or is that only in games that we should’ve won handily?

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  Twoutrally » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:51 am

vtraider wrote Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:34 am:https://youtube.com/watch?v=qPAHpy-GaqE

Pretty good breakdown of the 2 pt conversion attempt. Yes he says Carr under threw the pass. But also that it was tipped. Idk if it was under thrown or just a really good defensive play. They get paid to win too after all

The 50/50 jump ball was a perfect pass from Carr the only place he could have thrown it! Great job pointing that out....not!

The defender quickly took inside position. Great Defensive play. Everyone was covered like a glove on that play. Tip your cap to the Titans D! The play call should have been for Waller to cut in then back outside to right corner of the endzone. He would have been wide open!

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  Twoutrally » Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:01 am

Raider727 wrote Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:58 am:Still a shitty throw, Carr should have thrown in the back of the endzone over all the defenders.

Hollins ran a great route and was getting open, but Carr was probably going to Waller no matter what.

I think it was a dumbass play call by McDaniels though.

Mc Daniel drew up that shitty play for us! The play call sucked! Titans knew it was coming!

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  trdaddy » Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:06 am

Attyla wrote Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:19 pm:he did not cost us the game, some really bad drops killed us

I don't know why people on this board aren't full of more bias about Carr than others. How dare you be fair and reasonable. No this loss wasn't on Carr. Period. The first one, yes. Second one, no.

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  signal » Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:18 am

Opoponax50 wrote Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:59 pm:And that's one of the most important reasons why I want him gone. They're happy with his stats, which is their #1 priority. Maybe even worse, it makes them feel justified in tearing apart a rock solid player like Renfrow or Waller when they have a less than great game. It just stinks to high hell.

I have a begrudging respect for people who are simply cheerleaders. No matter how the team is doing, they're going to bust out the pom-poms and cheer. By extension they'll support whomever is under center. That's cool because they're fans of the team and when Carr moves on they'll still be here and they'll start cheering for the next Raider QB.

But Carr fans? To loosely quote the movie Becket, "Will no one rid me of these meddlesome Carrstans?"

Exactly. No one attacks a Raider player who has a bad game more than Carrstans. Not only that but they look around the league waiting for a good QB to have a bad game and celebrate it. It's as if they watch the NFL looking for anything to happen to make their QB look good...no matter what he has actually done that week. It is sad.

A Raider win or loss seems secondary for them. Rather, they simply look for narratives that will make their boy look good. If they can find them, they go on and on about it as if the fact that the Raiders are 0 -3 does not matter.

And yes, the eternal optimists are fine by me also. Anyone who can have hope after twenty years of shit has my respect. But those people who seem to watch the NFL just to find any sort of narrative that will excuse or make Carr look better, sorry but they are not what I have come to understand to be a Raider fan in my fifty years of watching this team.