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  Raidernation1979 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:09 pm

mranquales wrote Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:00 pm:If anything, that last video posted proves the blocking is not getting enough credit. That OT homerun was 98% blocking.
The blocking got him 5. He got the other 86 even baiting a safety along the way

Also some people may need glasses as the hawks had a safety 10 deep and one 15 deep. But ya know facts and stuff
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  Oaktownonly » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:43 pm

chucker wrote Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:37 pm:For those who want to marginalize what Jacobs does, maybe they should watch this play:

https://twitter.com/TheMarcJohnNFL/stat ... LAVLDhsV0g
I like the pitch run. That is something that I haven't seen the Raiders do in a long time.

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  Rte66BBQ » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:57 pm

IMO the guys got great feet. The short choppy steps through contact allow him to have great balance and agility.

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  Raider727 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:54 pm

Josh Jacobs is averaging 5.4 yards per carry this season after 11 games.

The Raiders have rushed the ball 262x this season and 216 of them were by Jacobs. That means the team as a whole apart from Jacobs has only rushed the ball 46x and 17 were by Carr.

So 29 carries were designed runs to other players in 11 games, not even 3 carries a game by other players being called a game on average.

McDaniels needs to start letting other players get some carries to give Jacobs some rest. Or run the ball more to give other players carries.

The Raiders are ranked 26th in the NFL in rushing attempts this season. So that means the Raiders are passing the ball too much and the identity that's is working for the Raiders when they have won is the running game.

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  BigJerk » Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:13 pm

Willmark wrote Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:03 pm:To be fair Ivan isn't the only one that was bagging on Jacobs. Anyone paying attention knows.

Either way epic performance. Tag or transitional tag is now likely as he is going to be $$$ next year.
I was (still am) in favor of trading Jacobs and Waller.
1) How long can he keep this up?
2) Is this the the next step in a "let's get paid, then go hang out with Trent Brown" story?
3) How much credit and accolades should go to often (yes by me too) maligned OL??

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  Raider87 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:09 pm

Raider727 wrote Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:54 pm:Josh Jacobs is averaging 5.4 yards per carry this season after 11 games.

The Raiders have rushed the ball 262x this season and 216 of them were by Jacobs. That means the team as a whole apart from Jacobs has only rushed the ball 46x and 17 were by Carr.

So 29 carries were designed runs to other players in 11 games, not even 3 carries a game by other players being called a game on average.

McDaniels needs to start letting other players get some carries to give Jacobs some rest. Or run the ball more to give other players carries.

The Raiders are ranked 26th in the NFL in rushing attempts this season. So that means the Raiders are passing the ball too much and the identity that's is working for the Raiders when they have won is the running game.
We seem to have a good balance though-
Not a lot of rushing attempts, but 13th in rushing yards per a game and 4th in yards per a carry.
8th in passing yards, 8th in passing TDs.
7th in total offense.
I do think Zeus White needs more action, he's not as shifty as Jacobs, but has some power and speed.

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  Raider727 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:34 pm

Raider87 wrote Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:09 pm:We seem to have a good balance though-
Not a lot of rushing attempts, but 13th in rushing yards per a game and 4th in yards per a carry.
8th in passing yards, 8th in passing TDs.
7th in total offense.
I do think Zeus White needs more action, he's not as shifty as Jacobs, but has some power and speed.
The Raiders have 5 games where they went over 100 yards rushing and 4 of those were wins. The only loss was vs the chiefs which could have gone to overtime but they went for 2 instead.

The Raiders have Adams and will get Renfrow and Waller back after this week hopefully but they still need to continue to run the ball and not get away from it, when it has been the winning formula thus far.

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  rich72 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:34 pm

I wonder if jacobs is only doing this to prove everyone wrong. Then after he gets a big contract turn into renfrow and waller. Sorry im skeptical now, I want to believe but its not easy after seeing the kinds of shenanigans these players have been pulling.

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  rich72 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:38 pm

Oaktownonly wrote Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:43 pm:I like the pitch run. That is something that I haven't seen the Raiders do in a long time.
They did a Flea Flicker also, I like that as well.
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  Trainnvain » Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:52 am

RunOverByHubbard wrote Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:58 am:If Ivan is actually an economist (as he has reminded us many times), he certainly should understand statistics and weighting. He overweights scoring TDs. He ignores anything that might ruin his postulates. You cannot pin him down or get him to acknowledge he just might be wrong about anything; he'll move the goal post or just ignore you .
Ivan is hilarious. It's obvious he is intentionally trying to get a rise out of people and he has several guppies that can't resist his bait- one poster in particular is boderline stalking Ivan(these comments are not referring to you). As long as Ivan keeps getting attention, he will keep posting his outrageous takes. Occasionally Ivan breaks character and makes some pretty insightful posts, they just get lost in the trolling.
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  WNYRAIDER » Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:59 am

After having seen his injury history prior to this year, and despite what has been reported to have been a change in his off season approach, i think that you have to be leery of offering up the kind of contract (length wise) that i think he would sign after this season. That is a tough position to play and while a huge fan of what he has accomplished so far this year, in a contract year, it has not been the norm, and i just can't see him sustaining it.

Tough decisions....
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  HesterLayes » Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:46 am

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  chucker » Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:53 am

Congrats to Jacobs..... could it really have been anyone else?
https://twitter.com/agalaviz_TheBee/sta ... AAXRQ5dZSA
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  HesterLayes » Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:06 am

chucker wrote Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:53 am:Congrats to Jacobs..... could it really have been anyone else?
https://twitter.com/agalaviz_TheBee/sta ... AAXRQ5dZSA
Lol.No way.That was an epic performance by him and our OL.

I see Oliver got the defense award.He is one of the guys I wanted.Damn you,Gruden.
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  heavyD » Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:10 am

HesterLayes wrote Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:06 am:Lol.No way.That was an epic performance by him and our OL.

I see Oliver got the defense award.He is one of the guys I wanted.Damn you,Gruden.
Yeah if they would have picked Oliver over Ferrel the team would be in a better place. I still can’t believe they used a 4th overall pick on a guy because of character traits only to draft guys like Arnette and Bowden Jr. It’s like their draft philosophy changed with the wind.
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