FLORIDARAYDAH » Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:40 am
And yet you are here commenting on every game no matter how bad the matchup. Sometimes when nobody else is even on the forum. Monday,Thursday and every game being played.7 days a week day and night. Going on and on about bad calls and how it's all rigged.16 to 88 wrote Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:05 am:Awful.
This league is getting worse and worse. If it weren't for the Raiders I wouldn't bother to tune in at all.
FLORIDARAYDAH » Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:46 am
You live in a world where you get upset about a lottery system that isn't even happening. Going on about how or unfair something is that doesn't even exist. Plenty of real things in the world without finding conspiracy in things that have not even happened.16 to 88 wrote Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:53 pm:Sorry, we don't live in a world of butterfly's and chirping birds wearing rose colored glasses where it's all good and if somebody questions another's motives they are sitting around with a tin foil hat all paranoid.
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chucker » Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:43 am
I don't trust anyone. But neither do the 32 NFL owners, who all want the best possible draft pick. The one thing I have faith in is that they will be watching each other, and watching NFL management, and they have the ability to do that. Do I trust them to not screw anyone who can't help themselves? No, because they are united in that interest. Do I trust that they will do everything to prevent other owners from screwing them? Yes. Because they can.Attyla » Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:17 am
the thing is, you all are blaming the NFL for something that is not even on a schedule to be discussed or voted on. It is not the NFL or Roger. The NFL can propose a change but it is the owners who vote on these things. The owners decide, not Roger. Roger heads up the parent organization that the owners companies attach to. Do not get me wrong, the NFL makes a lot of decisions, but changes like this have to be voted on. And assuming that there will be cheating before you guys know what they are even going to do is laughable. I do not have enough tin foil to handle the level of conspiracy theory you guys are dishing. It is like blaming Tom Brady for the tuck rule. Or using the reaction of sports writers to a question to prove the NFL is out to get us.16 to 88 » Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:10 am
Well, our team doesn't play in a vacuum. Just so you know.FLORIDARAYDAH wrote Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:40 am:And yet you are here commenting on every game no matter how bad the matchup. Sometimes when nobody else is even on the forum. Monday,Thursday and every game being played.7 days a week day and night. Going on and on about bad calls and how it's all rigged.
Things that make you go hmmm.
16 to 88 » Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:13 am
I don't look behind me I prefer to look in front.FLORIDARAYDAH wrote Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:46 am:You live in a world where you get upset about a lottery system that isn't even happening. Going on about how or unfair something is that doesn't even exist. Plenty of real things in the world without finding conspiracy in things that have not even happened.
Look Out behind you they are in the bunker! Code Red Code Red.
16 to 88 » Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:17 am
According to Payton they will be going to it in a few years.Attyla wrote Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:17 am:the thing is, you all are blaming the NFL for something that is not even on a schedule to be discussed or voted on. It is not the NFL or Roger. The NFL can propose a change but it is the owners who vote on these things. The owners decide, not Roger. Roger heads up the parent organization that the owners companies attach to. Do not get me wrong, the NFL makes a lot of decisions, but changes like this have to be voted on. And assuming that there will be cheating before you guys know what they are even going to do is laughable. I do not have enough tin foil to handle the level of conspiracy theory you guys are dishing. It is like blaming Tom Brady for the tuck rule. Or using the reaction of sports writers to a question to prove the NFL is out to get us.
To set the record straight:
We landed on the moon, we can see astronauts footprints there with telescopes
The earth is a globe. The Flat Earth society even said they have members around the globe
Lee Harvey did it.
There are no UN black helicopters
New Coke just sucked, it had nothing to do with driving sales of the classic formula
Paul was not dead, and still is not dead
Men who stare at goats cannot kill goats, but they might be pervs
just saying
FLORIDARAYDAH » Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:30 am
No crime if you watch every game. It's just funny after a decade of you saying the game is ruined and you lost interest that you are here all day every day16 to 88 wrote Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:10 am:Well, our team doesn't play in a vacuum. Just so you know.
Our team plays other teams and the other games affect everything. And as for your other comments per your usual which are completely off base about a guy you have never even met or so much as spent one minute with, I didn't know it was a crime to still watch other games. And if I am watching all of them 7 days a week day and night it's news to me and my wife.
16 to 88 » Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:02 am
Another swing and a miss my brother. Completely off base.FLORIDARAYDAH wrote Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:30 am:No crime if you watch every game. It's just funny after a decade of you saying the game is ruined and you lost interest that you are here all day every day
Attyla » Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:20 am
I have no problem with discussing, I merely find it funny that our fans immediately go down the "they are going to cheat" hole16 to 88 wrote Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:17 am:According to Payton they will be going to it in a few years.
Where there's smoke there's fire? We will see. In the meantime I'm doing nothing more then discussing the merits of it.
Pro v. con.
Jeevo » Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:24 am
Aren't the lotteries run by outside interests? Fixing would quickly become another large conspiracy and I ascribe to the mafia rule, the only way to keep a secret between three people is to kill the other two.Attyla » Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:28 am
it is the frozen envelop conspiracy. One of my favorites. Patrick Ewing had to go to New York since that is the biggest market in the NBA.Jeevo wrote Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:24 am:Aren't the lotteries run by outside interests? Fixing would quickly become another large conspiracy and I ascribe to the mafia rule, the only way to keep a secret between three people is to kill the other two.
FLORIDARAYDAH » Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:58 pm
What does any if that have to do with what you quoted. I said you spent the last decade saying you don't care about the game and lost interest. I guess you will spend the next 15 hours rambling conspiracy theories about the league that you supposedly don't care about. You can't make this stuff up16 to 88 wrote Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:02 am:Another swing and a miss my brother. Completely off base.
I simply point out things like I see it.
-The game has gone from a physically tough game from back in the day to an incredibly watered down version of it. In some cases I agree (C.T.E.). In others I can't help but (SMH).
-When I watch a guy like you know who play throughout the last several years here I comment on it and SMH. There is one constant in all of this throughout.
-When I watch the officiating throughout the years I comment on it and SMH. There is one constant in all of this throughout. 32 teams and only one of them, our beloved Raiders, are constantly and consistently at or near the top.
https://theethicalskeptic.com/2021/10/1 ... s-raiders/
As you may have already read this guy lays out a meticulously and detailed read on it. I didn't write it somebody else who echo's many other Raider fans did. Did miss the last Josh McDaniels Q&A on the officiating? How many players including Jerry Rice have stated the officiating is different here?
It's ain't just me.
I have watched this garbage transpire going all the way back to the beginning. I invite you to write you own paper refuting what he wrote.
Good luck with that! It's the worst kept secret in football.
FLORIDARAYDAH » Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:59 pm
Correct. It would have to be a massive conspiracy and no way it would be kept quietJeevo wrote Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:24 am:Aren't the lotteries run by outside interests? Fixing would quickly become another large conspiracy and I ascribe to the mafia rule, the only way to keep a secret between three people is to kill the other two.