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Be_Easy_25 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:34 pm
I said you did?Willmark wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:54 pm:Lots go through but lets start with this:
I made excuses for Caron Wentz's play?
Where did I do that? I'll wait while you find where I did that. Its only a 7-8 page thread at the moment.
Shouldn't take long right?
Willmark » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:36 pm
Thanks wasn't sure if it was just me. I'm still trying to figure out the point.Jeremyturner1976 wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:23 pm:"We lost 48-14 and 48-9 to the Chiefs. There’s your negative point differential.".
Yes, that is the definition of it. Negative ... point ... differential, it's even in the name. I am not sure anyone was confused here but thanks for showing us examples.
Be_Easy_25 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:37 pm
No problem.Jeremyturner1976 wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:23 pm:"We lost 48-14 and 48-9 to the Chiefs. There’s your negative point differential.".
Yes, that is the definition of it. Negative ... point ... differential, it's even in the name. I am not sure anyone was confused here but thanks for showing us examples.
Sold My Soul » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:38 pm
The list of questionable decisions made this team leaves one in disbelief that they are doing nothing more than winging it.Willmark » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:39 pm
You quoted my post and said "Big lol at anyone making excuses for Carson Wentz’s play on the football field at any point in time."Be_Easy_25 wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:34 pm:I said you did?
What word is after “lol” in my post?
Thanks in advance.
Be_Easy_25 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:41 pm
What word was said after lol again?Willmark wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:39 pm:You quoted my post and said "Big lol at anyone making excuses for Carson Wentz’s play on the football field at any point in time."
If you were referring to someone else, why attribute that statement that I did not make to me by said quote?
Willmark » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:47 pm
Who was the person you quoted in your reply, let me know. Because I don't see anyone else's statement you chose to reply to except mine. Hint you chose to use my quote to reply to comments made by other people, one of which commented on Wentz which I did not.Be_Easy_25 wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:41 pm:What word was said after lol again?
Was the word after lol “Willmark”?
Let me know.
Be_Easy_25 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:47 pm
Yes.Willmark wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:36 pm:Thanks wasn't sure if it was just me. I'm still trying to figure out the point.
I did some quick math (need to check the numbers) but consider:
10-7 record
Below are the averages in the Win/Losses that season.
Point difference in wins: 5.4
Point difference in loses: 16
Point difference in loses subtracting the two KC games? 7.5
So if anything (unless I'm missing something here) it points to what we saw with our own eyes on the field: a team that squeaked into the playoffs.
Of course if we remove the two blowout loses because that accounts for the -56 do we do the same for the two largest margins of victory that season as well aka winning by 10 Week 6 and 11 Week 7 vs the Broncos and Eagles respectively?
Point being if what/if becomes a factor than any outcome can be rationalized if we just remove factors.
Also- especially over the 4 game win streak that "catapulted" us to the playoffs? /sarcasm
Average margin of victory there is 4 with wins by 2, 4, 3 and 3 and 3 out of those 4 with game winning FGs by Carlson as time expired or nearly so (in 3 of the 4).
Be_Easy_25 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:49 pm
Is an answer coming forth?Be_Easy_25 wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:41 pm:What word was said after lol again?
Was the word after lol “Willmark”?
Let me know.
Raidernation1979 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:50 pm
We did beat the chargers. Thanks to Staley being about the dumbest coach and JJ running his ass off. Staley handed us that game multiple times. They still almost came back to beat us. We weren’t that good.Be_Easy_25 wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:47 pm:Yes.
We went in to the 4th quarter down 16-13 to the AFC Champs.
A score and a couple turnovers later, the score was lopsided…32-13.
Yes.
We lost to the Chargers 28-14 early in the year.
2 teams we saw later in the season for all the marbles.
One we beat.
One we had the ball in position to tie.
You have to stretch logic to say the real Raiders that year are losing to the Chargers 28-14 most times they play.
Not as much of a stretch with the Bengals but still a stretch to say we’d have 2 4th quarters turnover that would make a 16-13 game turn into a 32-13 game…we were close in that game prior to the turnovers. We were close in the playoff game.
Playoff team.
Be_Easy_25 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:52 pm
Agreed.Raidernation1979 wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:50 pm:We did beat the chargers.
Willmark » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:54 pm
What exactly is the real Raiders?Be_Easy_25 wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:47 pm:Yes.
We went in to the 4th quarter down 16-13 to the AFC Champs.
A score and a couple turnovers later, the score was lopsided…32-13.
Yes.
We lost to the Chargers 28-14 early in the year.
2 teams we saw later in the season for all the marbles.
One we beat.
One we had the ball in position to tie.
You have to stretch logic to say the real Raiders that year are losing to the Chargers 28-14 most times they play.
Not as much of a stretch with the Bengals but still a stretch to say we’d have 2 4th quarters turnover that would make a 16-13 game turn into a 32-13 game…we were close in that game prior to the turnovers. We were close in the playoff game.
Playoff team.
Yes I replied two posts above your question.Be_Easy_25 wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:49 pm:Is an answer coming forth?
Be_Easy_25 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:58 pm
2021?Willmark wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:54 pm:What exactly is the real Raiders?
Willmark » Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:02 pm
Taking responses to here because this is devolving a ways away from the actual topic of Josh McDaniels.Be_Easy_25 wrote Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:58 pm:2021?
10-7.
Wild Card Weekenders praying it isn’t the AFC Champs on the road and in the cold.
Again, in any re-simulation if I have to own “fake” wins against Dallas or Cleveland, you have to own “fake” losses to CHI and WAS at home.