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I'll never forget the Art Shell clip-board....
Or game 1 V2.0 at home vs SD. Get shut out. One series Brooks was sacked on three straight plays. After the game they asked Shell if there were half time adjustments. He said no we wanted to keep doing what we were doing...
That was one of the worst coaching staffs ever...
“I’m furious,” Porter said. “They might as well trade me. I wanted Mike Martz as my coach and a real offense that’s proven in today’s NFL. Not something dusted off from a bed and breakfast in God knows where.”
"We need to throw more passes to the backs. Thats why I wrote it on my clipboard"....."I don't know why we can't score . "We run the same plays other teams do" Art Shell....
Then they sacked Andrew Walter 9 times and ran all over the defense in a 16-0 game they absolutely dominated. The score doesn't reflect what an ass kicking it was because Seattle figured out early that their offense didn't need to do anything other than run the ball with their backups. The Raider D couldn't stop them, and the Raider O couldn't move the ball at all.
I've never seen such a pathetic display by an NFL team. It was like a College football game where a team like Alabama plays a team like Kent State, but it was the NFL. Barely...
Fact is stranger than fiction, especially in Raiderville.
I looked it up. 28 rushing TDs + 3 TD receptions. In one season. Jacobs with his "elite" 12 TDs. In one season.
THIS is why the offense sucks every year. They keep score of 'points scored' in the NFL. It's fantasy football where they keep track of yards, etc.
***And Jared Cook the Raider had 2 TDs in 2017 and 6 TDs in 2018. THE definition of "TD challenged!"
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^^^This X 1000000^^^Dark Horse wrote Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:18 am:No. He has a long way to go. Art Shell II is the standard of suck.
I'll never forget the Art Shell clip-board....
Or game 1 V2.0 at home vs SD. Get shut out. One series Brooks was sacked on three straight plays. After the game they asked Shell if there were half time adjustments. He said no we wanted to keep doing what we were doing...
That was one of the worst coaching staffs ever...
“I’m furious,” Porter said. “They might as well trade me. I wanted Mike Martz as my coach and a real offense that’s proven in today’s NFL. Not something dusted off from a bed and breakfast in God knows where.”
"We need to throw more passes to the backs. Thats why I wrote it on my clipboard"....."I don't know why we can't score . "We run the same plays other teams do" Art Shell....
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Then they sacked Andrew Walter 9 times and ran all over the defense in a 16-0 game they absolutely dominated. The score doesn't reflect what an ass kicking it was because Seattle figured out early that their offense didn't need to do anything other than run the ball with their backups. The Raider D couldn't stop them, and the Raider O couldn't move the ball at all.
I've never seen such a pathetic display by an NFL team. It was like a College football game where a team like Alabama plays a team like Kent State, but it was the NFL. Barely...
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LOL. Only the Raiders would hire a head coach who had been out of coaching for 5-6 years and make his offensive coordinator a guy who had been out of coaching even longer and was literally cooking breakfasts and changing sheets for B&B.Fade2SilverAndBlack wrote Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:53 am:^^^This X 1000000^^^
I'll never forget the Art Shell clip-board....
Or game 1 V2.0 at home vs SD. Get shut out. One series Brooks was sacked on three straight plays. After the game they asked Shell if there were half time adjustments. He said no we wanted to keep doing what we were doing...
That was one of the worst coaching staffs ever...
“I’m furious,” Porter said. “They might as well trade me. I wanted Mike Martz as my coach and a real offense that’s proven in today’s NFL. Not something dusted off from a bed and breakfast in God knows where.”
"We need to throw more passes to the backs. Thats why I wrote it on my clipboard"....."I don't know why we can't score . "We run the same plays other teams do" Art Shell....
Fact is stranger than fiction, especially in Raiderville.
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Yeah. You guys are right. No more venting comparisons.heavyD wrote Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:41 am:Bold post but I doubt we ever see a Raiders team as bad as the 2006 team. That team averaged 10.5 ppg on offense. Think about how pathetic that is over a 16 game season.
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Hey, at least you created a bit of conversation not related to either the Bills game or the upcoming Chargers game.trdaddy wrote Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:23 pm:Yeah. You guys are right. No more venting comparisons.
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I feel for fans that paid to watch the B&B offense. It was unwatchable from afar let alone witnessing it live. To highlight how bad that offense was, they scored 168 points in 16 games and LaDainan Tomlinson scored 186 points all by himself that season.Attyla wrote Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:42 am:And I paid money to see that mess....more than once
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Hes like Dennis Allen.vtraider wrote Wed Sep 27, 2023 3:28 pm:Trust me that was a really really bad coaching hire. And this is coming from someone who remembers Shell's first go round and was excited to see him back. This coaching hire might be a cluster f#ck but it isn't as bad as that one. This one might be Mike White level though
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I'm confused. So is Jacobs 12 TDs more or less than Tomlinson's 186 points?heavyD wrote Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:57 pm:I feel for fans that paid to watch the B&B offense. It was unwatchable from afar let alone witnessing it live. To highlight how bad that offense was, they scored 168 points in 16 games and LaDainan Tomlinson scored 186 points all by himself that season.
I looked it up. 28 rushing TDs + 3 TD receptions. In one season. Jacobs with his "elite" 12 TDs. In one season.
THIS is why the offense sucks every year. They keep score of 'points scored' in the NFL. It's fantasy football where they keep track of yards, etc.
***And Jared Cook the Raider had 2 TDs in 2017 and 6 TDs in 2018. THE definition of "TD challenged!"
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That explains the 70 yard FG attemptSir Raider Duck, OMS wrote Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:49 am:Remember that Kiffin's defensive coordinator was Rob Ryan, who'd already been here a few years. They didn't get along, and part of what alienated Kiffin from Al was Kiffin wanting to replace Rob with his father (longtime NFL defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin). Supposedly, Kiffin fired Rob, Rob went to Al to thank him for the opportunity and say Goodbye, and Al basically said "He doesn't have the power to fire you. Get back to work." Kiffin then charged into Al's office demanding to fire Ryan, and Al's response was to type up a quarter-page resignation letter (specifically saying the Raiders didn't owe him the balance of his contract but wouldn't block his employment anywhere else) and hand it to Kiffin to sign. Kiffin refused, but spent 2008 trying to get himself fired (so he'd be paid the rest of his contract), while Al just wanted him to quit (so he wouldn't have to pay). I remember Jerry McDonald commenting that both men had acted so childishly that one wished neither of them would get his way.
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