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Trainnvain » Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:18 am
I flip flop daily between the two, if they don’t go Qb. I would be happy with eitherDark Horse wrote Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:35 am:Outside of QB, Mitchell is my pick followed by Fuaga
The Condor » Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:40 am
I'm not saying he can't play, and whilst he was a stud at the Senior bowl, this wasn't up against the top college WR's.Dark Horse wrote Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:57 am:To answer your question, yeah, Mitchell can really play. Tulane is a football or CB powerhouse, so not as many people were paying attention and even the ones that were didn't see him matched against top level comp much. He showed out at the Senior Bowl.
Also, McKinstry was outplayed by his own teammate, in part because Arnold put forth more effort than him. He doesn't like chasing plays down.
The Condor » Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:46 am
Oh I've read and watched a load of scouting reports, so get the hype. But I just can't help but feeling that sometimes a one off combine/SB performance seems to override years of actual game filmRunOverByHubbard wrote Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:01 am:Michell is from Toledo, not Tulane. New story on him (with evidence that Al Davis would have taken him for sure):
Toledo cornerback Quinyon Mitchell overcame every doubt with emphatic answers on his path to the 2024 NFL Draft. Critics and doubters questioned almost every area of Mitchell's game the past 12 months but he arrives on the doorstep of the 2024 draft as the top-ranked cornerback in this class by leaving no room for naysayers along the way. Mitchell dominated in the MAC with six interceptions and 45 pass breakups the past two seasons with the Rockets. Some wondered if he could have the same impact against Power 5 prospects.
Senior Bowl director Jim Nagy, who had other top-ranked draft prospects at the position turn down invitations to the annual pre-draft showcase in Mobile, was an early supporter of Mitchell and provided the stage Mitchell needed in January. Mitchell said he went to the Senior Bowl to compete and with a point to prove. "That I can hang with the big dawgs," Mitchell said. He rapidly rose from the "best non-Power 5 prospect" in the draft to perhaps the top defensive player in the draft.
Mitchell is one of 13 prospects invited to sit in the draft green room in Detroit on Thursday. Mitchell turned heads all week at the Senior Bowl and turned his attention to preparing for the 2024 NFL Scouting Combine. He knew his on-field production and lockdown skills displayed at the Senior Bowl would earn high marks. If he could break 4.35 in the 40-yard dash, Mitchell was sure his case for top billing among cornerbacks would be closed. He ran 4.33. But to Mitchell, his wheels were never a question mark. At 193 pounds he ran the 40 in 4.39 seconds at a school timing day last spring. Mitchell said he has been timed even faster since and has a track background. "I didn't come here to be mediocre. I came here to break records," he said before running the 40 at Lucas Oil Stadium. Most major publications place Mitchell in the top 20 picks before the draft, with a few projecting him in the top 10 to the Las Vegas Raiders or Atlanta Falcons. Those teams would likely need to be convinced Mitchell has everything it takes to be a No. 1 cornerback in the NFL.
Mitchell was GPS chip-timed at the same top speed as Miami Dolphins All-Pro Tyreek Hill -- 23 miles per hour. NFL Next Gen Stats uses the same technology and tracked only three scoring plays over 22 mph in the 2023 regular season: Seahawks wide receiver DK Metcalf (22.23, Week 13), Bengals running back Chase Brown (22.05 mph, Week 14) and Hill (22.01 mph, Week 5).
Dark Horse » Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:50 am
Again, it doesn't mean his talent wasn't there, and I mean there on film. How many people are looking at Toledo for CB play?The Condor wrote Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:40 am:I'm not saying he can't play, and whilst he was a stud at the Senior bowl, this wasn't up against the top college WR's.
I may be wrong, but when I see a prospect surging up draft boards because of the combine/senior bowl, seemingly over years of actual game film, I'm sceptical.
BoJacksonRules » Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:27 pm
As long as our 1st round pick grades out as a 1st round pick I’ll be happy.islandboy » Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:05 pm
No knock on your quote, but I hope whoever our 1st round pick is:BoJacksonRules wrote Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:27 pm:As long as our 1st round pick grades out as a 1st round pick I’ll be happy.
signal » Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:12 pm
Tom Telesco Pre-Draft Press Conference - 4.22.24 | 2024 NFL Draft | RaidersBoJacksonRules » Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:15 pm
Agreed, I just have a lot of Raiders draft scar tissue. Because I don’t want anymore scars I’ll be happy as long as they don’t fuck it up.islandboy wrote Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:05 pm:No not on your quote, but I hope whoever our 1st round pick is:
Min- turns into a quality starter and someday is a considered Top 10 at their position
Max- Pro Bowler considered Top 3 at position.
Icing On the Cake: Perennial All Pro - Borderline HOF
Attyla » Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:24 pm
tell your significant other (or mom) to hide any sharp items around the house pleaseBoJacksonRules wrote Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:15 pm:Agreed, I just have a lot of Raiders draft scar tissue. Because I don’t want anymore scars I’ll be happy as long as they don’t fuck it up.
Scarpariello » Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:28 pm
I liked this presser. TT seems to have things under control and feels confident about where they are and how things will turn out. Props to him for giving kudos to the existing staff and the prior draft class. I like his seemingly lack of ego and non-obsession with trying to be the smartest guy in the room. It will be nice to go BPA and have no real WTF moments like so many prior drafts.signal wrote Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:12 pm:Tom Telesco Pre-Draft Press Conference - 4.22.24 | 2024 NFL Draft | Raiders
https://www.youtube.com/live/mr-WSwLHUh ... 4ptv5f7B0_
BoJacksonRules » Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:29 pm
I would never do that, I just worry about the tv surviving to pick 14 if we blow itAttyla wrote Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:24 pm:tell your significant other (or mom) to hide any sharp items around the house please
AngryRaidersFan » Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:45 pm
Really need a qb. Gonna be upset if we are looking at minshew and O'Connell as our only 2 possible starting qbsraiders93 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:05 pm
How do you grade him compared to say Devon Witherspoon last year (not in terms of similarities but in terms of caliber). Better or worse?Dark Horse wrote Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:50 am:Again, it doesn't mean his talent wasn't there, and I mean there on film. How many people are looking at Toledo for CB play?
rich72 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:09 pm
So the donks got Zach Wilson, are they still in the QB draft hunt? Also now that the Jets shipped off their 3rdd stringer are they in the QB draft market now also? It would be funny if they did that to Aaron Rodgers again instead of getting him help.Attyla » Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:15 pm
definitely ask mom to remove any sharp items from your basement lair just in caseAngryRaidersFan wrote Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:45 pm:Really need a qb. Gonna be upset if we are looking at minshew and O'Connell as our only 2 possible starting qbs