Raiderboy1966 » Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:38 pm
I was looking at the chargers cap numbers with associated salary numbers and huge dead money amounts. Worries me that he is going to run the Raiders into the ground with the same philosophy. Zero fiscal responsibility seemed to have been shown. Hopefully the cap is out of his hands but I doubt it so that is worrying.vtraider » Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:42 pm
From what's been reported he didn't handle the cap for the chargers. It was one of the spanos familyRaiderboy1966 wrote Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:38 pm:I was looking at the chargers cap numbers with associated salary numbers and huge dead money amounts. Worries me that he is going to run the Raiders into the ground with the same philosophy. Zero fiscal responsibility seemed to have been shown. Hopefully the cap is out of his hands but I doubt it so that is worrying.
Xramfan » Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:54 pm
"Tom Delaney enters his 24th year with the Raiders and the fifth in his present capacity. He served the previous seven seasons as Director of Football Administration, having been named to that post in 2012. Delaney is responsible for negotiating player contracts and managing the salary cap."16 to 88 » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:00 pm
Thanks. I wonder how much others are involved in how much they feel a player is worth and a cut off point?Xramfan wrote Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:54 pm:"Tom Delaney enters his 24th year with the Raiders and the fifth in his present capacity. He served the previous seven seasons as Director of Football Administration, having been named to that post in 2012. Delaney is responsible for negotiating player contracts and managing the salary cap."
chucker » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:16 am
Tom Delaney is obviously involved in negotiating and structuring contracts. He's not the guy who's going to decide how much to pay a guy though - that's a football decision. Delaney is a math/finance guy, not a scout or coach. Telesco needs to be the guy doing the resource allocations for FAs.signal » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:30 am
That is exactly where I am at. I know next to nothing in regards to what happened in LA. Whatever mistakes he may have made, I can only hope he has learned from them. He is coming in having first hand knowledge as to what worked and did not work and think that experience may prove helpful in his second stint as GM.chucker wrote Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:16 am:Tom Delaney is obviously involved in negotiating and structuring contracts. He's not the guy who's going to decide how much to pay a guy though - that's a football decision. Delaney is a math/finance guy, not a scout or coach. Telesco needs to be the guy doing the resource allocations for FAs.
I don't think Telesco can be tied directly to the Chargers in terms of their success with the cap or with draft picks because Spanos had the final authority and Spanos was likely involved in any significant decision. IMO our knowledge of Telesco as an empowered GM is basically a blank slate.
chucker » Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:21 am
By the way, I'm not saying Tom Delaney doesn't know football - he's likely a true fan and likely knows a ton about football from being around the game and being around coaches and scouts and GMs. Most people who work in top positions of football administration are likely doing it because they are passionate about the game, because they're likely getting paid less than if they were in finance in a less interesting industry. But he's likely not the guy saying this guy at a position is worth $10 million and that other guy is worth $15 - because that's a football decision. He's the guy who balances the cap books and makes sure contract structures work as a whole.heavyD » Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:54 am
He was the Chargers GM for a decade and the dead cap they accumulated was from trying to win while Herbert was on his rookie deal. Look at the dead money the Raiders have carried after half a decade of Gruden and McZiegler for players that barely even played for the Raiders.Attyla » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:09 am
Let's be honest, as skeptical as I can be, the personnel side of the staffing as far as depth is concerned is pretty outstanding. I will also say the Pierce has a vast amount of depth with his hires. I may not be thrilled with the OC overly, but the DC and the position coaching staff is really quite remarkable. We put together a group of people who may finally get us going in the right direction. We have 3 possible future GMs on our staff and a few guys that could elevate to coordinator positions, and certainly one guy who might well be a HC sooner than later.heavyD » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:19 am
I wish the Raiders owner was a billionaire businessman to which his team is merely a hobby and is distracted by the daily activities of running his empire. It’s Raiders all day, every day for Davis and I can imagine there’s an awful lot of micromanaging in the Raiders building compared to some other organizations.Attyla » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:27 am
you and me both, brother. Go knock up one of your D List arm candy....but can you imagine the outcome?heavyD wrote Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:19 am:I wish the Raiders owner was a billionaire businessman to which his team is merely a hobby and is distracted by the daily activities of running his empire. It’s Raiders all day, every day for Davis and I can imagine there’s an awful lot of micromanaging in the Raiders building compared to some other organizations.
Scarpariello » Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:13 am
I agree it's a pretty remarkable positive change from what the team has had not just recently but historically. The primary task for this new regime given the many new voices and opinions is to all get on the same page and synch on (1) the vision for the team both on O & D, (2) assessment of the current roster, (3) ID of priority free agents, and (4) building a draft board that everyone believes in. Assuming all these steps can be accomplished before the draft, I have a ton of optimism that we will improve significantly and put a competitive team on the field. In my opinion, they accomplished a lot with a little after AP took over so with better coaching, front office and talent, we should be able to compete for the division.Attyla wrote Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:09 am:Let's be honest, as skeptical as I can be, the personnel side of the staffing as far as depth is concerned is pretty outstanding. I will also say the Pierce has a vast amount of depth with his hires. I may not be thrilled with the OC overly, but the DC and the position coaching staff is really quite remarkable. We put together a group of people who may finally get us going in the right direction. We have 3 possible future GMs on our staff and a few guys that could elevate to coordinator positions, and certainly one guy who might well be a HC sooner than later.
It is actually kind of refreshing, as long as Adam Rich does not screw it up by poking his nose into things. Eat your wings in your owners box, shut up and let the guys do their jobs.