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  DustInTheWind » Wed May 24, 2017 9:42 pm

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2710 ... be-special

Some interesting tidbits from Miller's notes and early research:

When asking NFL scouts and general managers for an early look at next year's class, one high-level executive summed up what many are feeling about Penn State's Saquon Barkley: He has the potential to be the best running back of the last decade. Even better than Leonard Fournette or Ezekiel Elliott
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The 2017 running back class was loaded—one scout told me it was the best he's ever seen—but 2018 could be special with Barkley, Derrius Guice (LSU), Mike Weber (Ohio State), Ronald Jones (USC), Nick Chubb and Sony Michel (Georgia) and Royce Freeman (Oregon) all poised for big seasons. And those are just the top names we know right now.

The running back class of 2018 has a ways to go before competing with the 2017 group in terms of top-tier talent, perceived starters and depth, but the early look is great.

The 2018 offensive tackle class looks to be far ahead of the 2017 group. Last year at this time, the only first-round-quality tackle prospect was Cam Robinson. This year, players like Connor Williams, Mike McGlinchey, Mitch Hyatt and Martinas Rankin all look like top-32 picks.

Top 32 Big Board
1. QB Josh Allen Wyoming
2. QB Sam Darnold USC
3. RB Saquon Barkley Penn State
4. DL Christian Wilkins Clemson
5. QB Josh Rosen UCLA
6. S Derwin James FSU
7. OT Connor Williams Texas
8. EDGE Arden Key LSU
9. LB Malik Jefferson Texas
10. S Minkah Fitzpatrick Alabama
11. RB Derrius Guice LSU
12. WR Deon Cain Clemson
13. S Marcus Allen Penn State
14. WR Courtland Sutton SMU
15. CB Tarvarus McFadden FSU
16. OT Mike McGlinchey Notre Dame
17. DL Da'Shawn Hand Alabama
18. EDGE Josh Sweat FSU
19. LB Jerome Baker Ohio State
20. LB Cameron Smith USC
21. EDGE Harold Landry Boston College
22. OT Mitch Hyatt Clemson
23. OT Martinas Rankin Mississippi State
24. WR Calvin Ridley Alabama
25. DL Vita Vea Washington
26. CB Denzel Ward Ohio State
27. DL Dre'Mont Jones Ohio State
28. S Armani Watts Texas A&M
29. LB Azeem Victor Washington
30. OG Quenton Nelson Notre Dame
31. WR Christian Kirk Texas A&M
32. EDGE Bradley Chubb N.C. State

Protecting Carr's blindside and having a starting RB (i.e. replacing a retired Penn and/or Lynch) will likely be a problem for the 2018 draft to solve. Having quality options at OT and RB would be a great situation for the Raiders to be in. Best case would be to draft one and not need either to start right away. That is, assuming Penn and/or Lynch could play another year or two at a high level.

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  Atlasffa » Wed May 24, 2017 11:10 pm

RB Saquon Barkley is very special. Other Big Ten team players call him the best they have ever played against--at any position.

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  CarrKnight » Thu May 25, 2017 9:50 am

No Penn State players!

I can't believe that Wyoming QB is so high up on the draft board. They will be a team to watch this year.

Josh Rosen will be a bust, IMO.

Sutton is a fine WR.

Hopefully, we are picking at 32!

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  DustInTheWind » Thu May 25, 2017 1:08 pm

If Barkley keeps playing like he should I don't think the Raiders end up having a shot at him anyway. Just at first glance, he really reminds me of a LeSean McCoy type player. Shifttiness for days.

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  Willmark » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:22 am

DustInTheWind wrote Thu May 25, 2017 1:08 pm:If Barkley keeps playing like he should I don't think the Raiders end up having a shot at him anyway. Just at first glance, he really reminds me of a LeSean McCoy type player. Shifttiness for days.

Penn State RBs as of late though....

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  DustInTheWind » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:38 pm

Willmark wrote Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:22 am:Penn State RBs as of late though....

The list is rather underwhelming. Though I'd prefer not just discounting a guy because he plays for a certain school.

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  Metallica0688 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:52 am

http://www.nfldraftgeek.com/2018-nfl-dr ... -rankings/

1 Arden Key Edge LSU JR

2 Josh Rosen QB UCLA JR

3 Sam Darnold QB USC SO

4 Tavarus McFadden CB Florida State JR

5 Saquon Barkley RB Penn State JR

6 Connor Williams OT Texas JR

7 Christian Wilkins DL Clemson JR

8 Calvin Ridley WR Alabama JR

9 Josh Allen QB Wyoming JR

10 Derrius Guice RB LSU JR

11 Harold Landry Edge Boston College SR

12 Vita Vea DL Washington JR

13 Porter Gustin Edge USC JR

14 Peter Kalambayi Edge Stanford SR

15 Minkah Fitzpatrick S Alabama JR

16 Kalen Ballage RB Arizona State SR

17 Jaire Alexander CB Louisville JR

18 Josh Sweat Edge Florida State JR

19 Derwin James S Florida State SO

20 Jack Cichy LB Wisconsin SR

21 Josey Jewell LB Iowa SR

22 Jordan Thomas CB Oklahoma SR

23 Mark Andrews TE Oklahoma JR

24 Nick Chubb RB Georgia SR

25 Akrum Wadley RB Iowa SR

26 Quin Blanding S Virginia SR

27 Cameron Smith LB USC JR

28 Christian Kirk WR Texas A&M JR

29 Quenton Nelson G Notre Dame SR

30 Marquis Haynes Edge Mississippi SR

31 Bradley Chubb Edge North Carolina State SR

32 Braden Smith G Auburn SR

33 Sean Welsh G Iowa SR

34 Tyrell Crosby OT Oregon SR

35 Frank Ragnow C Arkansas SR

36 Jamar Summers CB UConn SR

37 Billy Price C Ohio State SR

38 Scott Quessenberry C UCLA SR

39 Mike McGlinchey OT Notre Dame SR

40 Trey Adams OT Washington JR

41 Cody O’Connell G Washington State SR

42 Jamarco Jones OT Ohio State SR

43 Lowell Lotulelei DL Utah SR

44 Jaleel Wadood S UCLA SR

45 Luke Falk QB Washington State SR

46 Jalyn Holmes Edge Ohio State SR

47 Kemoko Turay Edge Rutgers SR

48 Lamar Jackson QB Louisville JR

49 Malik Jefferson LB Texas JR

50 James Looney DL California SR

51 Steven Parker S Oklahoma SR

52 Skai Moore LB South Carolina SR

53 Royce Freeman RB Oregon SR

54 Da’Shawn Hand Edge Alabama SR

55 Courtland Sutton WR SMU SR

56 Bryce Love RB Stanford JR

57 Bo Scarbrough RB Alabama JR

58 Deon Cain WR Clemson JR

59 Dallas Goedert TE South Dakota State SR

60 Keith Ford RB Texas A&M SR

61 Nick DeLuca LB North Dakota State SR

62 Keishawn Bierra LB Washington SR

63 Chukwuma Okorafor OT Western Michigan SR

64 Will Hernandez G UTEP SR

65 Na’Ty Rodgers OT Houston SR

66 Viane Talamaivao G USC SR

67 Fred Warner LB BYU SR

68 Coleman Shelton C Washington SR

69 Orlando Brown OT Oklahoma JR

70 Nick Orr S TCU SR

71 Armani Watts S Texas A&M SR

72 Lorenzo Carter Edge Georgia SR

73 Marcus Allen S Penn State SR

74 Nate Andrews S Florida State SR

75 James Washington WR Oklahoma State SR

76 Kylie Fitts Edge Utah SR

77 Darren Carrington WR Oregon SR

78 Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin SR

79 Chris Jones CB Nebraska SR

80 Anthony Sherrils S Missouri SR

81 Travin Howard LB TCU SR

82 Koron Crump Edge Arizona State SR

83 Ike Boettger OT Iowa SR

84 Steven Mitchell WR USC SR

85 Sam Hubbard Edge Ohio State SR

86 Mason Cole C Michigan SR

87 Mason Rudolph QB Oklahoma State SR

88 Maurice Hurst DL Michigan SR

89 Dalton Schultz TE Stanford JR

90 Brian Allen C Michigan State SR

91 Emmanuel Beal LB Oklahoma SR

92 Michael Deiter C Wisconsin JR

93 Larry Rose III RB New Mexico State SR

94 Lavon Coleman RB Washington SR

95 Nick Fitzgerald QB Mississippi State JR

96 Brandon Facyson CB Virginia Tech SR

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  Metallica0688 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:02 am

DustInTheWind wrote Thu May 25, 2017 1:08 pm:If Barkley keeps playing like he should I don't think the Raiders end up having a shot at him anyway. Just at first glance, he really reminds me of a LeSean McCoy type player. Shifttiness for days.

It is okay Barkley is a nice back . However here is three other backs that are pretty damn good options behind him for us .

Ryan Nall-Oregon State
James Williams-Washington State
Bo Scarbough- Alabama

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  Raidersman321 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:30 am

Bo has to prove he can stay healthy throughout the entire year. He's been injury prone since his HS days.

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  Raidersman321 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:42 am

Darren Carrington just got kicked off the team

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  Atlasffa » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:42 pm

Here's some tape from a kid, LJ Scott, who more or less flew under the radar due to the W-L record at MSU. He's been described as being very much like Le'Veon Bell (also from MSU). He's only a junior this year, but like Bell, it would not surprise me if he declares for the draft early. His draft stock will probably depend on how well MSU rebounds from their dismal 2016 season, but Scott is definitely a highlight for MSU and may make the difference between a winning and losing season. Although he's on some of the watch lists, Barkley (and others) will get a lot more attention and press so Scott could be available for a Raider pick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etkj3uDLG6w

CarrKnight: Are you against all Big10 RBs or just those from PSU?

Also #90 Brian Allen, 6'2" 305lbs on the above list is on watch lists and is a tough, excellent center. Very athletic:

https://twitter.com/BAllen65_/status/886331644189319172

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  CarrKnight » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:24 pm

Atlasffa wrote Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:42 pm:Here's some tape from a kid, LJ Scott, who more or less flew under the radar due to the W-L record at MSU. He's been described as being very much like Le'Veon Bell (also from MSU). He's only a junior this year, but like Bell, it would not surprise me if he declares for the draft early. His draft stock will probably depend on how well MSU rebounds from their dismal 2016 season, but Scott is definitely a highlight for MSU and may make the difference between a winning and losing season. Although he's on some of the watch lists, Barkley (and others) will get a lot more attention and press so Scott could be available for a Raider pick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etkj3uDLG6w

CarrKnight: Are you against all Big10 RBs or just those from PSU?

Also #90 Brian Allen on the above list is on watch lists and is a tough, excellent center.

Just Penn State. It is a personal grudge. Most Big 10 running backs I am fine with. When you lived in the vicinity of the Nittany Lion temple (Beaver Stadium) and you weren't a PSU fan (I am an Army fan), you are despised.


I know Barkley is a great talent, I just don't like PSU players or their fans. They actually thought McGloin was going to take Carr's job last season after Derek went down. Delusional as always.

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  Atlasffa » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:29 pm

CarrKnight wrote Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:24 pm:Just Penn State. It is a personal grudge. Most Big 10 running backs I am fine with. When you lived in the vicinity of the Nittany Lion temple (Beaver Stadium) and you weren't a PSU fan (I am an Army fan), you are despised.


I know Barkley is a great talent, I just don't like PSU players or their fans. They actually thought McGloin was going to take Carr's job last season after Derek went down. Delusional as always.

Whew... glad to hear that your prejudice doesn't extend to all Big10 schools. There is a lot of good talent in the Big10.