Aqua » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:06 am
The Chargers are 6-4 and the Raiders are 5-5. Yet you believe Justin Herbert is "elite". Who else is elite ? The Bills are 6-4 and Josh Allen has had some terrible games this year. Is he elite ?Opoponax50 wrote Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:11 am:In today's NFL, without an elite QB, you're not going anywhere. .
raiders1988xyz » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:12 am
carr isn't elite when he lost 5 games, putting up 14, 9, 16, 14, 13 pointsAqua wrote Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:06 am:The Chargers are 6-4 and the Raiders are 5-5. Yet you believe Justin Herbert is "elite". Who else is elite ? The Bills are 6-4 and Josh Allen has had some terrible games this year. Is he elite ?
Oaktown Superman » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:13 am
But it’s the defense’s fault! They should’ve given up 13, 8, 15, 13, and 12.raiders1988xyz wrote Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:12 am:carr isn't elite when he lost 5 games, putting up 14, 9, 16, 14, 13 points
Aqua » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:18 am
Two weeks ago the Bills scored 6 points in a 6-9 loss to Jacksonville and yesterday the Bills lost to the Colts 41-15. Does this mean Josh Allen is not an elite QB?raiders1988xyz wrote Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:12 am:carr isn't elite when he lost 5 games, putting up 14, 9, 16, 14, 13 points
raiders1988xyz » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:20 am
the bills have a better chance winning the division or making the playoffs in the wild cardAqua wrote Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:18 am:Two weeks ago the Bills scored 6 points in a 6-9 loss to Jacksonville and yesterday the Bills lost to the Colts 41-15. Does this mean Josh Allen is not an elite QB?
Opoponax50 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:20 am
The Bills are a solid playoff team so they get the benefit of the doubt. Just like the Chiefs, there are good reasons to believe Buffalo and Allen will come out of their slump. Allen has played at an elite level and been to the post season three years in a row, and he's going to be there again this season.Aqua wrote Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:06 am:The Chargers are 6-4 and the Raiders are 5-5. Yet you believe Justin Herbert is "elite". Who else is elite ? The Bills are 6-4 and Josh Allen has had some terrible games this year. Is he elite ?
Jeremyturner1976 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:26 am
Carr has now decided he does not have enough weapons. That was the nail in the coffin for him.Chiefhater wrote Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:24 am:Carr only does those things when he's winning.
Riff Majestic » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:26 am
Both Josh Allen and Herbert are without a doubt top 10 QB's what they do with their legs is a 1000x better than what Carr does. Every QB has some stinker games but I think most fans of any NFL team would take either of these guys over Carr in a heartbeat.Fade2SilverAndBlack » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:26 am
There isn't a single HC or GM in the NFL that would rather have Carr over Allen or Herbert....Aqua » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:29 am
I believe Allen and Herbert are fine quarterbacks. But you've proclaimed "in the NFL, without an elite QB your team is going nowhere".Opoponax50 wrote Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:20 am:If you want a consensus opinion on whether Allen and Herbert are better players than Carr, just go to some neutral NFL forums and ask and you'll find the answer in short order.
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Toons » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:32 am
I was watching AZ play yesterday and thought Colt McCoy and Carr are so similar in how they play. I think that's what Carr is, a good NFL backup and not a franchise guy. That's not a knock. You can have a long career being a guy that steps in here and there.Opoponax50 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:34 am
Yep. Those who are critical of the "eye test" have little understanding of intangibles. Against Pittsburgh last night, the Chargers offense had the ball at Pittsburghs 10 yard line or so. Herbert dropped back to throw, faced heavy pressure, ran forward a few steps, and then tossed a short pass (while still moving forward) to a safety valve that went for a TD.Jeremyturner1976 wrote Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:26 am:Carr throws a great football, the intangibles is always what held him back. Those have not improved and we don't have three more years to teach him a new system that hides those.
Oaktown Superman » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:36 am
Josh Allen is an ascending QB.Aqua wrote Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:18 am:Two weeks ago the Bills scored 6 points in a 6-9 loss to Jacksonville and yesterday the Bills lost to the Colts 41-15. Does this mean Josh Allen is not an elite QB?
Opoponax50 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:38 am
Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, Wilson, and to a lesser extent Lamarr Jackson, Josh Allen, Stafford, and Herbert.Aqua wrote Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:29 am:I believe Allen and Herbert are fine quarterbacks. But you've proclaimed "in the NFL, without an elite QB your team is going nowhere".
So, I ask you again which current NFL quarterbacks do you define as elite ?