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Dark Horse » Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:59 am
It was part of deal that included or window for release.Sold My Soul wrote Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:56 pm:Their biggest blunder was giving him a no trade clause. Anything after that is just add on.
Dark Horse » Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:01 am
It couldn't be three months. That would be after the draft, plus why would you want that situation to linger?BigJerk wrote Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:09 pm:to me the blunder was the Date of contract guarantee.
3 Days after SB isn't a lot of time.
If thet said 3 weeks or 3 months after the SB would have been much more strategic.
Hellbound » Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:30 am
I'm sure there had to be some type of compromise in order for Carr to sign essentially a one year prove it deal. That seems like the compromiseSold My Soul wrote Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:56 pm:Their biggest blunder was giving him a no trade clause. Anything after that is just add on.
Vercingetorix » Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:51 am
I have coworkers telling me that Carr is a great QB. They pull up stats online...say "Look! He is the best Quarterback they ever had!" And absolutely, will NOT listen to what I know. I ask back "Have you watched every game he has played for the Raiders? Because I have. You don't understand."Willmark » Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:52 am
The contract does indeed look to be a compromise. It looks like neither side really got what they wanted, hence as you note comprise.Hellbound wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:30 am::vomit: I'm sure there had to be some type of compromise in order for Carr to sign essentially a one year prove it deal. That seems like the compromise
GUYDON » Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:54 am
Pete Carroll would actually be the perfect coach for carr. They could be super bestiesKillingJoke wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:48 am:I think Carr would be a good fit with the Seahawks.
Willmark » Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:58 am
No Carolina. If he was (in part) happy with Downing because of his faith. It will be more so with Reich. Note, just an observation.GUYDON wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:54 am:Pete Carroll would actually be the perfect coach for carr. They could be super besties
chucker » Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:47 am
If Carr is cut by Feb 15, then the Raiders don't owe him another dime.rcraider wrote Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:48 pm:So I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to these contracts, so how does this work ? the deadline is feb 14 when Carr’s contract comes due so they have to trade him by than or pay him but any trade won’t be finalized until march so if they trade him don’t the Raiders have to pay him anyway on feb 14 during that one month wait till the trade is finalized ?
Ocoordinator » Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:55 am
Dump his ass, pay the minimal hit and move on. He’s loving all the attention knowing he’s in control. Raiders screwed the pooch on this one. If we get anything at all I’d be surprised.FLORIDARAYDAH » Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:57 am
Faith aside I think Carolina is a great fit. they have a lot of talent ,good weather,and its not a high pressure place to play. Plus that division is wide open for team to step upWillmark wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:58 am:No Carolina. If he was (in part) happy with Downing because of his faith. It will be more so with Reich. Note, just an observation.
silver_ghost » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:12 am
The raiders didn't screw anything at all. They created a contract with the smallest amount of guaranteed money that is paid to a QB with 30+ million dollars. With larger guaranteed money Carr's contract would be harder to move. The fact that teams are interested in talking to Carr despite his large contract is a testament to the fact that they have no issues in taking over the contract & will be able to rework it to suit their cap.Ocoordinator wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:55 am:Dump his ass, pay the minimal hit and move on. He’s loving all the attention knowing he’s in control. Raiders screwed the pooch on this one. If we get anything at all I’d be surprised.
Raiders could even agree to pay a portion of his salary. As in whatever the hit may be if we just cut him.
Ocoordinator » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:57 am
They most certainly did. Please explain to me the rationale behind sitting your starting Qb and basically letting the whole league know you’re either dumping him or attempt to trade him before next season and, - again, - AND, negating trade value that was certainly there before dumb move.silver_ghost wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:12 am:The raiders didn't screw anything at all. They created a contract with the smallest amount of guaranteed money that is paid to a QB with 30+ million dollars. With larger guaranteed money Carr's contract would be harder to move. The fact that teams are interested in talking to Carr despite his large contract is a testament to the fact that they have no issues in taking over the contract & will be able to rework it to suit their cap.
HesterLayes » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:59 am
I love McD although many don’t..the fact that he got in the princess ass in film and on the sideline on occasion makes me love him even moreOaktownonly » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:26 am
The only answer you need to give them is when it's 4th and game, your quarterback can't be throwing to gophers.Vercingetorix wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:51 am:I have coworkers telling me that Carr is a great QB. They pull up stats online...say "Look! He is the best Quarterback they ever had!" And absolutely, will NOT listen to what I know. I ask back "Have you watched every game he has played for the Raiders? Because I have. You don't understand."
"When did he ever have a true #1 WR? How many systems has he been through?" they ask me.
I concede to them the organization has been dysfunctional. But the things about Carr that you cannot see in that Skills challenge?? WE Raiderfans know.
It's just so irritating.
Oaktownonly » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:28 am
This is where I pray we're moving in the right direction. They saw he isn't the guy. What else do they see?HesterLayes wrote Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:59 am:I love McD although many don’t..the fact that he got in the princess ass in film and on the sideline on occasion makes me love him even more
I don’t think we appreciate McD and Z enough for finally being the ones to say “RaiderNation can’t win with this guy”
I’m not good at gifs and memes..anyone have that one of McD pointing to his head and getting in Derek’s shit on the sideline?