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but carry on, I may not be here to win a popularity contest but I am certainly not here to go out of my way to be hated, unless you get personal. But that is others's choices not mine.
You define greatest your way, I'll define it my way..
That all being said, if you think the 1980 squad is the best all time, good for you. But most historians will not have them anywhere near top 10. Most will have them at the bottom third. If Rod Martin had not played out of his mind that day, the game looks a lot different. Rod should have been MVP.
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What's interesting is that you made that comment and you didn't even mention the 1983 Raiders in your top ten breakdown. Fucking weird. The Raiders have one of the greatest traditions in NFL history. and just because we haven't done much in a couple of decades, doesn't mean anyone can erase it. We were a special organization for a long time. Get ovah it!Willmark wrote Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:53 am:LOL
Nice try, look at the comments, and the first one specifically:
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"Nothing on earth that blocked, or tackled or passed or ran could have stopped the Raiders on Black Sunday."
That's me, too easy.
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The 1986 Giants were brutal, 49-3 smack down on the 49ers in the playoffs.Attyla wrote Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:40 am:Greatest show on Turf comes to mind, that was a loaded team.
The perfect Phins. Not sure you can have a list without them.
The Parcells Giants, that was a helluva defense he put together.
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but carry on, I may not be here to win a popularity contest but I am certainly not here to go out of my way to be hated, unless you get personal. But that is others's choices not mine.
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When you use a word like "greatest" it is up to the poster to how they define greatest. Some of the teams on that list you came up with skirted (cheated?) the cap issue. Anything 49er related during the DeBartolo years definitely had a massaged salary cap.Willmark wrote Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:54 am:They were indeed that.
But best of all time though?
Don't get me wrong it was the year I became a Raiders fan so it was cool to see, but greatest?
You define greatest your way, I'll define it my way..
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Wasn’t disparaging your commentary. Nor am I telling you your opinion is wrong.Coach Pappy wrote Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:13 am:When you use a word like "greatest" it is up to the poster to how they define greatest. Some of the teams on that list you came up with skirted (cheated?) the cap issue. Anything 49er related during the DeBartolo years definitely had a massaged salary cap.
You define greatest your way, I'll define it my way..
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That all being said, if you think the 1980 squad is the best all time, good for you. But most historians will not have them anywhere near top 10. Most will have them at the bottom third. If Rod Martin had not played out of his mind that day, the game looks a lot different. Rod should have been MVP.
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Agree, if I was going into bat with one team it would be 1985 Bears.Attyla wrote Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:01 pm:The 83 team is easily one of my favorites. We beat a team that had one of the best lineups of the 80s. 85 Bears were better though. I can make a ranking of teams that won it all and I still find myself putting the Bears at the top of the list. The 9ers squads will always find their way onto the list as will the Steelers/Phins of the 70s and one or two Pats squads. I will always as a fan of the team find a place for the 83 squad but I never consider the 80 team. But just because someone will not does not find me insulting them. This is not science, it is all opinions. I was told there is a huge group of people who hate me around here, but I am not the one insulting just to insult opinions. Truth is, I would not include the 9ers squad that beat Marino, but there are other 9ers squads I would. But why bash an opinion? Debate, sure, make a case, of course but take shots? Not on a subject that you have no winners. To question team loyalty over such a debate? Not my style.
but carry on, I may not be here to win a popularity contest but I am certainly not here to go out of my way to be hated, unless you get personal. But that is others's choices not mine.
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