16 to 88 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:23 am
Yes, yes it was.Chiefhater wrote Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:06 pm:Last year we faced too many 3rd and long situations. Whether it be through bad play calling, drops, missed wr or our running backs being tackled behind the LOS. I mean it seemed like Derek had to try and convert too many bad down and distance situations.
Also I think defenses took Derek’s strengths away pretty well and we didn’t have a counter to that. I think I heard of some personnel guys for other teams commenting on how basic our WR routes were. It was just a clusterfuck all around.
Rainman56 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:13 pm
Likely not an impact on the game but the checkdown when a hail mary was called to end the half still has me saying WTF???mad stork 83 wrote Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:35 pm:Carr's decision making left a lot to be desired.
Radman » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:16 pm
Really hard to say. I still blame coaching. I think they taught him to “be safe” just like in his rookie year. That’s what you get with crap coaches coaching to save their job vs to win.Rainman56 wrote Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:13 pm:Likely not an impact on the game but the checkdown when a hail mary was called to end the half still has me saying WTF???
Think it showed where Carr mindset was at times last season.
mad stork 83 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:12 pm
Maybe. Maybe the league counted Carr's strengths and he couldn't respond. We shall see. It will be a fun season regardless!Radman wrote Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:16 pm:Really hard to say. I still blame coaching. I think they taught him to “be safe” just like in his rookie year. That’s what you get with crap coaches coaching to save their job vs to win.
R8RMick » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:23 am
He needs to improve his pocket presence from last season. He definitely did not look comfortable, and was even gun shy at times. Look at his numbers under pressure. I want to see the kid from 2016. Lack of confidence in a system can do that.CarrKnight » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:48 am
Broken system equals poor play. Any QB in the NFL would have struggled last year with Dowling.Rainman56 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:52 am
He simply needs to grow a pair and stop being scared in the pocket.He toughens up and he'll be fine...Has all the athletic qualities but he needs to man up under pressure.R8RMick wrote Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:23 am:He needs to improve his pocket presence from last season. He definitely did not look comfortable, and was even gun shy at times. Look at his numbers under pressure. I want to see the kid from 2016. Lack of confidence in a system can do that.
Chiefhater » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:01 am
In 2016 Carr was great under pressure. So I don’t think it’s just a matter of pocket awareness or toughness. I think the injuries did affect his confidence though. He gave up on plays way too early for my liking a lot of the time.Rainman56 wrote Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:52 am:He simply needs to grow a pair and stop being scared in the pocket.He toughens up and he'll be fine...Has all the athletic qualities but he needs to man up under pressure.
signal » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:14 am
Yes, I think this is closer to the heart of matter. I don't think it has anything to do with Carr's character or as if he forgot what pocket awareness was about. I agree, I think the back injury impacted him more than we assume and then he was placed in a scheme where he could not thrive. Add to that one of his main weapons, Cooper was going through a similar fate at the same time - dealing with injuries in a scheme that allowed defenders to often sit on his routes.Chiefhater wrote Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:01 am:In 2016 Carr was great under pressure. So I don’t think it’s just a matter of pocket awareness or toughness. I think the injuries did affect his confidence though. He gave up on plays way too early for my liking a lot of the time.
I still maintain the theory that he wasn’t allowed to audible last year. At least not at the level that he was with Musgrave.
mad stork 83 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:19 pm
An injury like he sustained to his leg can get into one's head. It can be difficult to overcome. I know a lot of MLB players can't play effectively any more after getting hit in the head with a pitch. Psychologically, we tend to change what we do when things like this happen. Regardless of the reason for his regression, hopefully he figures it out and gets back to form.Chiefhater wrote Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:01 am:In 2016 Carr was great under pressure. So I don’t think it’s just a matter of pocket awareness or toughness. I think the injuries did affect his confidence though. He gave up on plays way too early for my liking a lot of the time.
I still maintain the theory that he wasn’t allowed to audible last year. At least not at the level that he was with Musgrave.
mad stork 83 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:21 pm
I don't put much into the Cooper injury. As I recall, Carr was playing poorly before the Cooper injury.signal wrote Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:14 am:Yes, I think this is closer to the heart of matter. I don't think it has anything to do with Carr's character or as if he forgot what pocket awareness was about. I agree, I think the back injury impacted him more than we assume and then he was placed in a scheme where he could not thrive. Add to that one of his main weapons, Cooper was going through a similar fate at the same time - dealing with injuries in a scheme that allowed defenders to often sit on his routes.
Carr had several things working against him last year and I am just glad the organization knew it and went out of their way (I00 million dollars out of their way) to make things right for Carr and the rest of the team.
signal » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:25 pm
The main reason for Carr's regression and that of the entire scheme has to do with poor preparation, weak lame ass predictable scheme and weak game planning week in and week out. That said, the injuries did not help.mad stork 83 wrote Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:21 pm:I don't put much into the Cooper injury. As I recall, Carr was playing poorly before the Cooper injury.
mad stork 83 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:34 pm
Could be. It is literally impossible to say for sure. Lots of things changed for Carr. The hit that broke his leg. Change in coaches. Injuries during the season. Hopefully it was the coaching and scheme because that has changed. If it was one of the other things, they can linger regardless of coaching. Either way, it will be an interesting season!signal wrote Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:25 pm:The main reason for Carr's regression and that of the entire scheme has to do with poor preparation, weak lame ass predictable scheme and weak game planning week in and week out. That said, the injuries did not help.
signal » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:08 am
Thanks for sharing!tadow wrote Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:54 am:http://silverandblacktoday.com/2018/07/ ... o-seasons/
Interesting read.