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powski » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:10 pm
Dust in the windGhoul » Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:14 am
https://raiderforums.com/viewtopic.php? ... 1&start=15Attyla » Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:24 am
wrong, he got a max deal, he was just structured so they can cut him if it does not work out. His pay will be top 5 if they do not.Ghoul wrote Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:14 am:https://raiderforums.com/viewtopic.php? ... 1&start=15
I told you all he would do this. And all you skeptics were there telling me he wouldn't. There is something you will never understand: Derek Carr loves Raiders much more than you do, and he puts his money where his mouth is (the Team).
Ghoul » Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:28 am
That's where we all may be mistaken. WR's and QB's salaries go up quickly, and noone knows were the middle of the market will be in two years. 22, 35, 45 mil in consecutive years may turn out to be that middle.Attyla wrote Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:24 am:wrong, he got a max deal, he was just structured so they can cut him if it does not work out. His pay will be top 5 if they do not.
and no, he works for the Raiders, he may be a fan but he does not love the team more than some of the fans who endured decades of mediocrity
Willmark » Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:31 am
This thread and the eight others that proceeded it is proof that to player fans, the name on back is all that matters.bulldogsblue wrote Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:33 pm:Who gives a crap about the names on the back of the jersey, it is about the decal on the helmet.
Willmark » Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:41 am
Correct, hope for wins but be realistic.rich72 wrote Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:17 pm:As much bad stuff I talk about Carr, I hope he does well this season. The better he does, the better our team will do. I still want to trade him but on gameday I hope he proves all of us doubters wrong and that wouldnt upset me one bit.
CWood24 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:14 am
Carr isnt a top 10 QBBluegrassRaider » Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:15 am
Fire up the hemi on them thar goal posts!Ghoul wrote Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:28 am:That's where we all may be mistaken. WR's and QB's salaries go up quickly, and noone knows were the middle of the market will be in two years. 22, 35, 45 mil in consecutive years may turn out to be that middle.
Attyla » Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:31 am
this is a bad argument. It is the same one they used when Carr signed his last deal. You have to judge these in the moment, not what it will mean in 3 years. As of right now, he has signed a deal that says he is worth top 5 money. That is what the deal is worth if they do not cut him.Ghoul wrote Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:28 am:That's where we all may be mistaken. WR's and QB's salaries go up quickly, and noone knows were the middle of the market will be in two years. 22, 35, 45 mil in consecutive years may turn out to be that middle.
Ghoul » Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:37 am
You've been mislead so badly. Is he a top 5 paid QB in 2022? No, and here all your arguments lose their validation. Will he be a top 5 paid in 2023? We'll see.BluegrassRaider wrote Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:15 am:Fire up the hemi on them thar goal posts!
Went from financial martyrdom to "ya never can tell what one day may will be the case" in a heartbeat.
Now Mahones will possibly be relatively cheap when his contract is over so really he set the chefs up with a secretly team friendly deal.
In fact the same can be argued about about any high end contract when it us time to enter the Land of Make Believe to fluff their guy.
See now it doesn't matter what the contract pays now it us what is MAY POSSIBLY ONE DAY BE fairly mundane so it is a sacrifice, see.
From that lens anything less than 80 million a year is at least a willen one day neigh a retroactive belt eating but only for their angelic hero.
It is happy horse shit like this that makes a Billy goat with a belly of iron puke.
The audacity to rub noses in the 5th highest contract for a guy who has crossed 30 touchdowns once, long ago and never won a playoff game and in the next breath justify it with "one day" like that doesn't apply to every other contract is absurd.
I've never seen the like in all of sports. This is cult stuff.
VEfreak » Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:13 am
If I was in the league, clowning my friends would be the most important thing next to winning.grosse gurke wrote Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:30 am:Wouldnt you? If I was in the league and got a sack on my best friend you can bet your ass I would be rubbing his nose in it.....do you not talk shit when golfing or whatever sport you play? Thats part of the fun.
Jeremyturner1976 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:58 am
So why not sign him for 300 million a season. I mean as long as it is a year away, who knows. Maybe they sign 31 other QBs next year for 310 million.Ghoul wrote Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:37 am:You've been mislead so badly. Is he a top 5 paid QB in 2022? No, and here all your arguments lose their validation. Will he be a top 5 paid in 2023? We'll see.
Even fucking Florio admitted it, and he is a huge known Carr hater.
MonsterDerek » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:35 am
Surprised Carr hasnt done aa All out FU to the team & Fans!! cuz of all the Constant Disrespect! All the TB12 Talk in the inaugral Season in LV, Grudens non committal, the drawn out ext.talks... & all of the Haters in the fan base! No props for keeping his Sh*t together, let alone the whole team, Last season with ALL the setbacks!! yeah the offense took a step back not forward! but that was more on the Oline & its reconstruct! how many times did Parker WHIFF! or James fall to the ground! or Leatherwood Jump OS! & look out of place!!Aqua wrote Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:25 am:Sirius NFL radio guys were talking this morning about which NFL QB's are currently performing the best. Someone made a list of 12 names which had Mayfield as number 1, Carr was 11, Joe Burroughs 12. I think Carr is a legitimate starting NFL QB but I don't believe signing him to another big dollar long term contract would be a good idea.
GoodTimeCharlie » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:17 am
D would definitely be a golf guy. On an XBOX of course. Real golf would break him by the 3rd hole. 1st hole if he was playin’ with someone better than him.352Raider wrote Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:39 am:Derek should have done the team a favor and played golf.