- Congrats: 3 These Raider Fans gave Attyla high fives (total 3):
- BluegrassRaider • Willmark • June510
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Attyla » Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:53 am
reading impairment is at an all time high around here.CWood24 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:07 am
Out of our 7 losses he hasnt been clutch in 6 of themTwoutrally wrote Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:03 am:Sorry they keep stats it is what it is! In this case it’s an awesome stat in Carr’s favor. Think about it. Out of 10 OT games he has WON 9! That’s CLUTCH sorry you cannot take that away from #4. No one in this group can!!
Now get him a D for 2023 so we don’t have to score 30+ points a game to win.
chucker » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:21 am
They keep stats for QB Q-L record too. I think the point is that if you're talking comeback wins or OT wins or whatever, then you should be willing to talk about overall wins and losses. Overall QB W-L numbers actually do get talked about in the football world a lot, and not just by bitter Raider fans.Twoutrally wrote Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:03 am:Sorry they keep stats it is what it is! In this case it’s an awesome stat in Carr’s favor. Think about it. Out of 10 OT games he has WON 9! That’s CLUTCH sorry you cannot take that away from #4. No one in this group can!!
Now get him a D for 2023 so we don’t have to score 30+ points a game to win.
VEfreak » Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:38 am
Carr had little to do with our OT win against the Falcons. That was all JJ. Just goes to show what a flawed stat that is.Twoutrally wrote Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:03 am:Sorry they keep stats it is what it is! In this case it’s an awesome stat in Carr’s favor. Think about it. Out of 10 OT games he has WON 9! That’s CLUTCH sorry you cannot take that away from #4. No one in this group can!!
Now get him a D for 2023 so we don’t have to score 30+ points a game to win.
June510 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:43 pm
You are right, he can do no wrong.Attyla wrote Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:53 am:reading impairment is at an all time high around here.
Simply put. W/L is not a QB stat when we lose, we lose as a team. W/L is a QB stat when we win regardless of how the QB plays (in this case, started bad, played well down the stretch.) W/L is absolutely a QB stat if we come from behind in the 4th QTR or in OT regardless of how he plays or who scores the final points (in this case, he played OK in OT but there was a very curious play call in there that we probably should have audibled out of)
So, to sum up, we lose, not on QB, we win no matter how good or bad the win is, totally on QB. If QB loses, that is on the coach, the defense, offensive line or on a receiver/RB. If we win, the QB overcame the coaching, the defense, the offensive line or a receiver/RB in heroic fashion.
And, (this is my favorite) if we win, he will absolutely be here next year. If we lose, we hear crickets.
Hope that helps.
June510 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:47 pm
His fans are insanely biased.chucker wrote Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:21 am:They keep stats for QB Q-L record too. I think the point is that if you're talking comeback wins or OT wins or whatever, then you should be willing to talk about overall wins and losses. Overall QB W-L numbers actually do get talked about in the football world a lot, and not just by bitter Raider fans.
Attyla » Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:12 pm
the logic is undeniableJune510 wrote Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:43 pm:You are right, he can do no wrong.
LuckyRaider » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:17 pm
Ok he still doesn't seem like HCing material to me. But then again I liked Del Rio. I'm biased. How do you not take one shot to the end zone with 14 ticks left.... still can't figure that or a lot of other things out. He won. If he can keep winning we're good next season. If not we're in deep shitRaider727 wrote Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:57 pm:The same people who love Carr hate McDaniels, but do you agree McDaniels called a good game?
I personally didn't like a few play calls in critical situations but overall McDaniels called a good game.
srv5490 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:27 pm
No, I think he is making a fair point that addresses how fans polarize on both sides. But it's not everybody. There are plenty of us here who can simultaneously discuss his strengths and his weaknesses, and/or give him credit for his good games and call him out for his bad ones.June510 wrote Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:45 pm:That sounds like TCPA The Carr Protection Agency.
VEfreak » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:49 pm
You don’t take a shot at the end of half and game because you don’t trust your dimwit QB to not fuck it up. Carr threw two int’ son the first half.LuckyRaider wrote Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:17 pm:Ok he still doesn't seem like HCing material to me. But then again I liked Del Rio. I'm biased. How do you not take one shot to the end zone with 14 ticks left.... still can't figure that or a lot of other things out. He won. If he can keep winning we're good next season. If not we're in deep shit
CWood24 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:09 pm
Carr fans just don’t get the point of he is not worth the contract he is onGoodTimeCharlie » Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:12 pm
20 million is a little steep.CWood24 wrote Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:09 pm:Carr fans just don’t get the point of he is not worth the contract he is on
At 20m with his play we’d be happy to keep him around but at 40m he is a dead weight the same as Waller i mean 54m on 2 players who dont live up to there contracts is bad & then we can add Jones into that aswell
We can't spend on the D if we’re building around a game manager who’s paid like an elite QB
Carr fans won’t admit he has his weapons now it is the coaching, playcalling & the D
Our D is far more clutch than our QB because this season whenever we’ve needed them to get the ball back apart from 1 game they’ve done
It doesn't matter what the defence has done in the first 3 quarters it only matters about the 4th quarter right?
DSOTM » Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:15 pm
So Carr gets credit for the OT win because he hands the ball off to Jacobs?Twoutrally wrote Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:03 am:Sorry they keep stats it is what it is! In this case it’s an awesome stat in Carr’s favor. Think about it. Out of 10 OT games he has WON 9! That’s CLUTCH sorry you cannot take that away from #4. No one in this group can!!
Now get him a D for 2023 so we don’t have to score 30+ points a game to win.