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Swifty » Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:54 pm
Either way, that sounds like a lot of work. I was in 3 fantasy leagues this year and it took to much time from my day lolVEfreak wrote Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:45 pm:For all we know he’s on all kinds of forums running the same scam
VEfreak » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:07 pm
Yeah I’ve given up fantasy football. If I can’t give it enough attention I don’t even want to bother.Swifty wrote Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:54 pm:Either way, that sounds like a lot of work. I was in 3 fantasy leagues this year and it took to much time from my day lol
16 to 88 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:32 pm
iNsAnE!!!Corleone wrote Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:24 am:I mentioned in the OP, that I had banned him for suspicious activity, I'll explain a little, but in order to get the full scope, I have to go back a little further and explain stuff that Max-B had nothing to do with.
Back in August, some of you might remember an incident I posted about. Another member (ass swag) split up and started his own forum, and tried to use a bullshit trademark infringement attorney to try and shut us down.
There was a little more to it than just the trademark thing, the ass wipe was lying to members to get them to join his board, claiming that we had a "hit list".
Early last year, we needed a few more mods and we added a couple, including ass swag, which was a poor choice, but also didn't last long, he went ban happy and we had to remove his mod ability after about a week. I think he then got embarrassed and knew he would need to leave the site, so he made up shit. He claims that when he was a mod, he saw discussion from mods about suspending users for their race, political beliefs, for hating Carr - basically, whatever he felt was their weak spot that could get them pissed off at this site enough to leave and join his site(of course no screenshots exist, no proof exists of this because it's complete fantasy), but some idiots believed it because it justified their own fantasies on why they get banned from raiderforums. The truth is that people can just be ass holes at times, and we try to calm it down a bit.
Then the legal notices came, it was total bullshit, and I've already discussed it at pretty good length on the board, if you missed it, it's nothing too entertaining, but just know it was a pain in the ass, and I was this close || to filing a counter suit and taking that motherfucker to court. They were literally using false claims, and legal means to try and shut us down permanently.
After the legal attempt failed, they hired a black hat to DDOS our site. If it weren't for the timing of it, I wouldn't have suspected them, but the timing just made it way too obvious, and it was 100% a hired DDOS attack (our site was offline for a few hours, it wasn't the end of the world).
They also did some other shit that was more petty and just made them look like bigger ass holes than we already knew they were, but I won't get into all that.
I then found out that there was a fund, and a few guys on their site (notably Vegas34 and one other guy which kinda surprised me when I found out), were donating to ass swag and helping him fund this shit because they thought it was funny.
So I posted on our board a little about what was going on, and it was pretty clear that some members took a side and decided they wanted to defend him, and that's cool, but I banned them. His site was locked to the public, so I couldn't read any posts, but I could see a member list and decided to hit up some of the other members and give them the 411 and see where they stood. At this point, I know it was petty to put some members in the middle, but I didn't really give a fuck, they are the ones who did us wrong, and anyone reasonable would see that, and I told them if they posted over there, they wouldn't be welcomed here.
Max-B was cool when we talked, and honestly had me pretty fooled. He confirmed to me that the DDOS attack was done by ass swag and Vegas34 as I suspected, showed me a screenshot that pretty much confirmed it as far as I'm concerned. He seemed pretty trustworthy. He told me he ran the fantasy league, and that most the members were on the crackaddict site and that he couldn't really leave because of that. He told me that he was done with that site, but just needed to stay so he could post about the fantasy stuff and then after the season, he would delete his account there. That seemed reasonable to me - but in hindsight, makes me even more sure that he had planned to do this all along.
So then some time in November the crackaddict site goes public and I happen to see that Max-B is really active over there and just bad mouthing the shit out of us. I couldn't make any sense of it, so I banned him from our board, but now it makes perfect sense - he was playing both sides and didn't think I'd be able to read his posts over there(because they were not public, and I had no intention of trying to join, or fake my way in). I think he probably planned to stay in good standing on both sites, probably to collect gofundme money after he faked his death (that part could be a stretch, but I do think it's a strong possiblity this was planned months ago in the event that he did not win the league).
He then emailed me numerous times to get back on the site, tried going through Jeevo over and over to get back, then finally threatened me in email and told me that more bad stuff would happen to the site. I never responded to him.
So when the news of death came down, the week the fantasty league payouts were due, I knew without doubt, that something was up.
SkullCrusher » Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:59 pm
Sad thing is that is more exciting than what is put on the field. But man people, if I ever see the missiles arching overhead, I'll get it.BobbyPhil1781 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:38 pm
Meh, he seemed to have it out for me and there's more I can say but at the request of others, I'll leave it at that.Diesis wrote Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:57 am:Attyla is not a tool, he has always given a decent view on everything, I might not have agreed with everything he has said but have respect for his views.
Arsenal Raider » Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:46 pm
Do the trademark claims have anything to do with the RF shield logo changing a little while back?Corleone wrote Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:24 am:I mentioned in the OP, that I had banned him for suspicious activity, I'll explain a little, but in order to get the full scope, I have to go back a little further and explain stuff that Max-B had nothing to do with.
Back in August, some of you might remember an incident I posted about. Another member (ass swag) split up and started his own forum, and tried to use a bullshit trademark infringement attorney to try and shut us down.
There was a little more to it than just the trademark thing, the ass wipe was lying to members to get them to join his board, claiming that we had a "hit list".
Early last year, we needed a few more mods and we added a couple, including ass swag, which was a poor choice, but also didn't last long, he went ban happy and we had to remove his mod ability after about a week. I think he then got embarrassed and knew he would need to leave the site, so he made up shit. He claims that when he was a mod, he saw discussion from mods about suspending users for their race, political beliefs, for hating Carr - basically, whatever he felt was their weak spot that could get them pissed off at this site enough to leave and join his site(of course no screenshots exist, no proof exists of this because it's complete fantasy), but some idiots believed it because it justified their own fantasies on why they get banned from raiderforums. The truth is that people can just be ass holes at times, and we try to calm it down a bit.
Then the legal notices came, it was total bullshit, and I've already discussed it at pretty good length on the board, if you missed it, it's nothing too entertaining, but just know it was a pain in the ass, and I was this close || to filing a counter suit and taking that motherfucker to court. They were literally using false claims, and legal means to try and shut us down permanently.
After the legal attempt failed, they hired a black hat to DDOS our site. If it weren't for the timing of it, I wouldn't have suspected them, but the timing just made it way too obvious, and it was 100% a hired DDOS attack (our site was offline for a few hours, it wasn't the end of the world).
They also did some other shit that was more petty and just made them look like bigger ass holes than we already knew they were, but I won't get into all that.
I then found out that there was a fund, and a few guys on their site (notably Vegas34 and one other guy which kinda surprised me when I found out), were donating to ass swag and helping him fund this shit because they thought it was funny.
So I posted on our board a little about what was going on, and it was pretty clear that some members took a side and decided they wanted to defend him, and that's cool, but I banned them. His site was locked to the public, so I couldn't read any posts, but I could see a member list and decided to hit up some of the other members and give them the 411 and see where they stood. At this point, I know it was petty to put some members in the middle, but I didn't really give a fuck, they are the ones who did us wrong, and anyone reasonable would see that, and I told them if they posted over there, they wouldn't be welcomed here.
Max-B was cool when we talked, and honestly had me pretty fooled. He confirmed to me that the DDOS attack was done by ass swag and Vegas34 as I suspected, showed me a screenshot that pretty much confirmed it as far as I'm concerned. He seemed pretty trustworthy. He told me he ran the fantasy league, and that most the members were on the crackaddict site and that he couldn't really leave because of that. He told me that he was done with that site, but just needed to stay so he could post about the fantasy stuff and then after the season, he would delete his account there. That seemed reasonable to me - but in hindsight, makes me even more sure that he had planned to do this all along.
So then some time in November the crackaddict site goes public and I happen to see that Max-B is really active over there and just bad mouthing the shit out of us. I couldn't make any sense of it, so I banned him from our board, but now it makes perfect sense - he was playing both sides and didn't think I'd be able to read his posts over there(because they were not public, and I had no intention of trying to join, or fake my way in). I think he probably planned to stay in good standing on both sites, probably to collect gofundme money after he faked his death (that part could be a stretch, but I do think it's a strong possiblity this was planned months ago in the event that he did not win the league).
He then emailed me numerous times to get back on the site, tried going through Jeevo over and over to get back, then finally threatened me in email and told me that more bad stuff would happen to the site. I never responded to him.
So when the news of death came down, the week the fantasty league payouts were due, I knew without doubt, that something was up.
Raider Royalty » Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:05 pm
Corleone,Corleone » Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:08 pm
Yes.Arsenal Raider wrote Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:46 pm:Do the trademark claims have anything to do with the RF shield logo changing a little while back?
Corleone » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:13 pm
Started from scratch when raiderfans.net went to shit, and most the users migrated over here.swany65 wrote Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:59 pm:Was this forum started from scratch 7 years ago? Or did it morph/split from a previous forum ? Reason I ask is I could have sworn at one point I had to reregister at one of the forums I followed.
Diesis » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:17 am
The new logo looks better anyway.Corleone wrote Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:08 pm:Yes.
He designed the shield shape (that was it, the RF was already the existing logo) and gave me permission to use it 7 years ago.
There was never a trademark on it, and I did have permission to use it (and even had proof as the emails were still in my inbox) but the easiest solution was to change it so that’s what we did.
silvernblack10 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:29 am
So true. I had no idea where all these guys went. Makes sense now. But those guys really brought the forum down. This place is 10x better these days.toobscruiser wrote Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:35 am:I will say this, after that new site started up its been much nicer around these parts with some of the posters gone
silvernblack10 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:31 am
Also, is it confirmed that Bk was a scammer? I met him a few times and thought he was cool.BobbyPhil1781 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:05 am
Yes, there's very, very compelling evidence that BK scammed people. I wish Teh ROC was still up to show you the evidence. I'll actually search for it and see if it's archived somewhere.silvernblack10 wrote Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:31 am:Also, is it confirmed that Bk was a scammer? I met him a few times and thought he was cool.
I know all the PREMIUM and tshirt ordeals was a bit sketch - but I just thought he got in over his head.
But, I’m sure there is a lot of stuff I don’t know....
Oaktownonly » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:27 am
I must live under a rock, am extremely stupid or a little of both but I didn't even realize there was another fan site. After coming to this site I never looked for another site. Plus I was hooked after getting my "AC/DC" t-shirt. Haha