Dark Horse » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:27 am
I think the point is it's not a disaster as some people are claiming. I would go onto add that in addition to our first round pick, we have 7 more that can be used to address the OL. QB, not so much.signal wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:34 am:Exactly how I see the move. He signed a player who has NFL experience who in that case can be a good depth piece. Nothing more.
I think TT wants to actually improve the OL, and not finish this offseason with a weaker OL than the team had last year. And if that is the case, we can expect him to make more moves to address that need through the draft and free agency. I think it is definitely one of the positional groups he has an eye on improving the rest of the way.
Dark Horse » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:34 am
The problem with settling for Pratt and Rattler is the pecking order. Are they gonna beat out AOC is Minshew in camp? Highly unlikely, which means they wouldn't get reps, and thus a day 2 pick is wasted in the short term. They likelihood is they all still will be severely outmatched in the AFC West.WolfRaider wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:18 am:I personally really like Pratt and Rattler, I can see one of them two becoming a good NFL QB. But I think that’s because they’ll end up going to a situation where they can sit for a year or two first.
The people talking to Hondo could be very well hyping up AOC, in the hope we keep him.
Either way, we’ve just got to trust AP and TT and the judgement
Dark Horse » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:35 am
I knew what you meant, if if others didn't or pretended they didn't.AngryRaidersFan wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:31 am:Sorry I misspoke. When I said we are fine I mean we are fine as far as attacking the position early in the draft. I do think we need to add depth and would be more then fine drafting a few o lineman day 2 or 3
Dark Horse » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:38 am
That's JALEN Daniels, not Jayden.vtraider wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:45 am:Little bit on Daniels but mostly about rattler
https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/stor ... -nfl-draft
signal » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:39 am
I am not adverse to TT taking a QB early. By no means. IF he really likes one of the QBs and thinks he is a long term answer to the position, I have no problem whatsoever with the pick.Dark Horse wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:27 am:I think the point is it's not a disaster as some people are claiming. I would go onto add that in addition to our first round pick, we have 7 more that can be used to address the OL. QB, not so much.
DanKD » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:44 am
This I agree with. If you miss out on top 6, youre much better off seeing what AOC and Minshew can do and then addressing qb next year if still needed.Dark Horse wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:34 am:The problem with settling for Pratt and Rattler is the pecking order. Are they gonna beat out AOC is Minshew in camp? Highly unlikely, which means they wouldn't get reps, and thus a day 2 pick is wasted in the short term. They likelihood is they all still will be severely outmatched in the AFC West.
Dark Horse » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:46 am
Why do we act like busts don't apply to OL? It doesn't get much more blue chip than Evan Neal. He's been so bad they brought in Jermaine Eluemunor who we were fine letting go. I guy I liked in Teven Jenkins wasn't picked to be a OG by the Bears. Mr. Leatherwood is on milk cartoon.signal wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:39 am:I am not adverse to TT taking a QB early. By no means. IF he really likes one of the QBs and thinks he is a long term answer to the position, I have no problem whatsoever with the pick.
That said, if they decide to go QB it does mean that you are bypassing a blue chip OL and you will not find another in any other round. So, there is a cost in going QB, especially if the evaluation on that player suggests that he is ranked somewhere between 30th and 50th best player in the draft and you bypass a player you have ranked in the top ten.
Exactly!!! I don't want any of those bums outside the first round! Pratt's arm is slightly better than my Dad who is in his 70's.DanKD wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:44 am:This I agree with. If you miss out on top 6, youre much better off seeing what AOC and Minshew can do and then addressing qb next year if still needed.
WolfRaider » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:47 am
That AOC would be a top QB in this draft, he’s a 1st round talent and he’d be our pick at 13 if he was in the draft.heavyD wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:23 am:What's Hondo spinning in regards to AOC?
signal » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:48 am
They do. But a study was done and that position with the best hit rate...you guessed it....the OL. One of the worst...WR.Dark Horse wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:46 am:Why do we act like busts don't apply to OL? It doesn't get much more blue chip than Evan Neal. He's been so bad they brought in Jermaine Eluemunor who we were fine letting go. I guy I liked in Teven Jenkins wasn't picked to be a OG by the Bears. Mr. Leatherwood is on milk cartoon.
Dark Horse » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:48 am
WolfRaider wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:47 am:That AOC would be a top QB in this draft, he’s a 1st round talent and he’d be our pick at 13 if he was in the draft.
vtraider » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:50 am
Oops I read it wrongDark Horse wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:38 am:That's JALEN Daniels, not Jayden.
Dark Horse » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:54 am
That's fine, it ain't fool proof is the point. Even Neal was not "ranked" (which is silly to begin with because every team has their own ranking system) in the 40's, he was that blue chip guy you spoke of. I can tell you right now, even as a height/weight/speed guy myself, I wouldn't be surprised at all if his former teammate JC Latham was a bust. All I see him do is get blown up. So even playing the percentages doesn't work. I love Fuaga, but the guy he reminds me of the most is none other than Teven Jenkins. People revert to OL simply because of the belief that it's automatically a "safe" pick, but no position pick is safe. If I had to put money on the "safest" OL prospect, it would be Fautanu, who I think is an elite GUARD.signal wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:48 am:They do. But a study was done and that position with the best hit rate...you guessed....the OL. One of the worst...WR.
It is one thing to swing and miss at #13 on a talent which is almost universally considered top 10 in the draft and it is another to swing and miss at #13 on a talent everyone has slated as the 40th best player in the draft. Just saying...
Dark Horse » Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:00 am
By the way, I bet those percentages would look different if they were considering the last 5 years. WRs is no longer a boogeyman pick.signal wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:48 am:They do. But a study was done and that position with the best hit rate...you guessed it....the OL. One of the worst...WR.
It is one thing to swing and miss at #13 on a talent which is almost universally considered top 10 in the draft and it is another to swing and miss at #13 on a talent everyone has slated as the 40th best player in the draft. Just saying...
signal » Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:06 am
"So even playing the percentages doesn't work."Dark Horse wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:54 am:That's fine, it ain't fool proof is the point. Even Neal was not "ranked" (which is silly to begin with because every team has their own ranking system) in the 40's, he was that blue chip guy you spoke of. I can tell you right now, even as a height/weight/speed guy myself, I wouldn't be surprised at all if his former teammate JC Latham was a bust. All I see him do is get blown up. So even playing the percentages doesn't work.
The Condor » Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:15 am
Oh I realized that. Immediately.Dark Horse wrote Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:40 am:Well it should all make sense when you realize I wasn't talking to you.