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heavyD » Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:02 pm
I don’t know about that. If AP was making the final call, Jacobs would still be a Raider. It’s clear Telesco is running the show and so far he seems pretty measured and calculated as we have seen in free agency where he’s resisted temptation to jump in and sign a bunch of tier 2/3 free agents. Handing over all the draft capital it would take to draft Daniels doesn’t seem like something he would be eager to do.Southshield wrote Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:50 am:I am getting the exact same vibes with Pierce and Daniels. We will trade every pick to get him
tatalalicious » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:17 pm
Nah, I wouldn't equate Jacob's to one of the top qbs in terms of decision making. I think that the qb decision is one that Pierce would have the most imput on even the final say. I don't even think you can read into his comments about jacobs, the 2 could have decided together that they wouldn't go above a certain price. I also don't think Pierce is going to push for anything crazy (like beyond 3 first) to get Daniels, he seems like a realist to me.heavyD wrote Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:02 pm:I don’t know about that. If AP was making the final call, Jacobs would still be a Raider. It’s clear Telesco is running the show and so far he seems pretty measured and calculated as we have seen in free agency where he’s resisted temptation to jump in and sign a bunch of tier 2/3 free agents. Handing over all the draft capital it would take to draft Daniels doesn’t seem like something he would be eager to do.
heavyD » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:26 pm
I don’t think a guy like Daniels is worth trading multiple 1st round picks. I like him as a prospect, but he’s not a sure thing and a guy costing that much draft capital should have close to elite arm strength which he does not have.GUYDON » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:56 pm
I believe Daniels is worth almost anything you give for him. He could be our first real franchise QB in forever, dude has a cannon arm and can run like hell. He had a good connection with AP. I think he would be a complete game changer for the Raiders. We could have a QB teams fear to play, haven't had that since gannon.heavyD wrote Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:26 pm:I don’t think a guy like Daniels is worth trading multiple 1st round picks. I like him as a prospect, but he’s not a sure thing and a guy costing that much draft capital should have close to elite arm strength which he does not have.
Marzan » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:56 pm
I don't know who it will be, but at least half of the QB's drafted will bust or never live up to where they were drafted. It's always like that.miles_j20 wrote Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:10 pm:I have a feeling JJ McCarthy will have the same NFL trajectory as Zack Wilson.
chucker » Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:00 pm
IMO Penix is more athletic and mobile than he gets credit for. But if you're gonna tweet this out, you should probably run a 40 and do a 3 cone at the pro day tomorrow.16 to 88 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:12 pm
Yeah that would be nice. No more speculationchucker wrote Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:00 pm:IMO Penix is more athletic and mobile than he gets credit for. But if you're gonna tweet this out, you should probably run a 40 and do a 3 cone at the pro day tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/themikepenix/status ... 6703244559
JTRaider » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:02 pm
I genuinely wish our GM and QB liked a rookie that much. Go get him if so.Southshield wrote Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:50 am:I am getting the exact same vibes with Pierce and Daniels. We will trade every pick to get him
Raiderboy1966 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:02 pm
This. We have to try. We need a game changer at the position.GUYDON wrote Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:56 pm:I believe Daniels is worth almost anything you give for him. He could be our first real franchise QB in forever, dude has a cannon arm and can run like hell. He had a good connection with AP. I think he would be a complete game changer for the Raiders. We could have a QB teams fear to play, haven't had that since gannon.
MexicanHulk » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:34 pm
I don’t think he said anything overhyping his ability. Just that he can. For me, I hope he doesn’t run &, the skepticism continues cause, that’ll keep his stock lower. Obviously I’d want this cause, I’m pro Penix &, (since the top 4 will be gone) I’m hoping to get Penix without having to give up draft capital. Shoot, hopefully with even a trade back.chucker wrote Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:00 pm:IMO Penix is more athletic and mobile than he gets credit for. But if you're gonna tweet this out, you should probably run a 40 and do a 3 cone at the pro day tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/themikepenix/status ... 6703244559
rich72 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:38 pm
It was a steal at the time, the only gripe was passing on Carter, but we had to after the Ruggs incident.signal wrote Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:28 am:Say whatever you want about the Wilson pick but it was not a reach. I remember clearly seeing that he was top 5 pick in some mocks and a regular in the top ten.
silver_ghost » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:24 pm
Who is? More than arm strength I value if he has the ability to read defenses. No amount of arm strength can compensate for that.heavyD wrote Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:26 pm:I don’t think a guy like Daniels is worth trading multiple 1st round picks. I like him as a prospect, but he’s not a sure thing and a guy costing that much draft capital should have close to elite arm strength which he does not have.
GUYDON » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:35 pm
Not against Penix, but him saying he is "athletic" is funny. Last 40 time I saw for him was a 4.7... carr ran a 4.6.raider_kin » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:54 pm
GUYDON wrote Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:56 pm:I believe Daniels is worth almost anything you give for him. He could be our first real franchise QB in forever, dude has a cannon arm and can run like hell. He had a good connection with AP. I think he would be a complete game changer for the Raiders. We could have a QB teams fear to play, haven't had that since gannon.