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Attyla » Thu May 02, 2024 11:31 am
Mattison's cap hit is a bit over 1.9M, his guaranteed is 1.1M, he has a workout bonus of $78.K and a signing bonus of $525K. His cap number takes up .8% of our total cap.MexicanHulk wrote Thu May 02, 2024 11:19 am:In terms of the CB room, I think I’m evaluating it correctly. With Jones & Hobbs, I think two spots are solidified with pretty good starting production. Somewhere between above avg & pro bowl level. So that’s good. But that other starting outside CB spot is a black hole at the moment. I’m thinking/hoping they will get Gilmore or Howard in FA. So that will be a huge boost. But if (when) injuries hit, I’d be a little worried.
Eichenberg, I agree with you on. Love the instincts &, hard nosed play. He’s always around the ball. It looks like he could possibly develop some competent coverage play in time. With good coaching of course. It’ll just take some time & experience.
Mattison, I would have said, he doesn’t make the team but, he was signed to a guaranteed contract. Correct me if I’m wrong (PLEASE SOMEONE CORRECT ME). His cap hit is 4.6mil!!! Ridiculous! Again, PLEASE SOMEONE CORRECT ME. lol
MexicanHulk » Thu May 02, 2024 12:20 pm
Oh. I seen base of 3.3 &, dead cap of 4.6. & dead cap is really the full hit, right? Anyway, glad it’s less. But that guarantee is still too much. Should have been zeroAttyla wrote Thu May 02, 2024 11:31 am:Mattison's cap hit is a bit over 1.9M, his guaranteed is 1.1M, he has a workout bonus of $78.K and a signing bonus of $525K. His cap number takes up .8% of our total cap.
But the dead money if cut is 1.6 unless we trade him post June 1st
Attyla » Thu May 02, 2024 12:29 pm
I usually don't get too worked up over guaranteed unless it is big dollars on a big contract. His is pretty reasonable, a bit high for a special teamer but for a depth guy not really that bad overall.MexicanHulk wrote Thu May 02, 2024 12:20 pm:Oh. I seen base of 3.3 &, dead cap of 4.6. & dead cap is really the full hit, right? Anyway, glad it’s less. But that guarantee is still too much. Should have been zero
Raider727 » Thu May 02, 2024 12:43 pm
So drafting players that play positions of need is not addressing a need, got it!MexicanHulk wrote Thu May 02, 2024 8:02 am:No they weren’t. Oline, yes. Just cause you draft a player at that position, doesn’t mean it was addressed. If, you go into free agency & sign bottom of the barrel players at the 5 of your positions of need, do you say, “Well, we addressed that need. We’re a superbowl contender now.”? No, you don’t.
Drafting a 4th round CB who has talent but very much is a project in some areas, isn’t exactly addressing the need. Getting Mitchell, Arnold, Wiggins, McKinstry, or even Rakestraw, Melton…you’d say, you addressed the need. Even tho their not proven, the overall balance of talent/polish for the NFL they have, you’d say, “Ok, we addressed that need.” Because you’d feel more comfortable going into to the season with them being a starter or getting lots of reps as a rotational player. So, starter playing time. I don’t think anyone is saying, I’m confident & happy going into the season with Richardson as the #1 or #2 outside CB. If you do, you’re just extremely biased.
Eichenberg is a downhill LB’er. While I like his instincts, motor, what looks like, love for the game, downhill LB’ers are easy to find. The Raiders needed (still do) a good coverage LB. So no, this doesn’t fill the need.
If your team drafted a RB &, Mattison is still viewed as the #2 ahead of him, it’s laughable to think that need was met. Mattison is horrible & shoulda never been signed to any guarantee or above the league min.
In short, I completely disagree with your take of those needs being filled.
Attyla » Thu May 02, 2024 12:55 pm
There may be a terminology issue going on here. If you draft the position that was a team need, I think that is addressing it. But I also think that when that player is drafted is how much importance you put on that need. We addressed LB on day 3 so it was obvious the importance was lower than addressing OL which we addressed aggressively on day 2. I also think the plan was to address another need on day 1 but that plan changed when the player of such great value fell to us. Changing your plan to the circumstances presented was not only brilliant but ended up setting the tone for the entire draft.Raider727 wrote Thu May 02, 2024 12:43 pm:So drafting players that play positions of need is not addressing a need, got it!
MexicanHulk » Thu May 02, 2024 1:10 pm
That’s all you got from it? Well then, no need to debate with you. You’re helpless. Guess we all know you just blurt stuff out without actually knowing anything about it.Raider727 wrote Thu May 02, 2024 12:43 pm:So drafting players that play positions of need is not addressing a need, got it!
Raider727 » Thu May 02, 2024 1:59 pm
I understand what you're saying and I'm not debating, you're the one that went on a rant. I'm not saying that everything is all good now because we don't know how the players will turn out that were drafted. You never know how a player will turn out. Look at Koonce and Crosby, they were late picks after all.MexicanHulk wrote Thu May 02, 2024 1:10 pm:That’s all you got from it? Well then, no need to debate with you. You’re helpless. Guess we all know you just blurt stuff out without actually knowing anything about it.
Xramfan » Thu May 02, 2024 2:06 pm
“I seen”?MexicanHulk wrote Thu May 02, 2024 12:20 pm:Oh. I seen base of 3.3 &, dead cap of 4.6. & dead cap is really the full hit, right? Anyway, glad it’s less. But that guarantee is still too much. Should have been zero
MexicanHulk » Thu May 02, 2024 2:07 pm
I liked them when they were drafted. With them I actually had more confidence that they could fill the role sooner than later. After I watched more film of course. Cause I didn’t know them prior to being drafted.Raider727 wrote Thu May 02, 2024 1:59 pm:I understand what you're saying and I'm not debating, you're the one that went on a rant. I'm not saying that everything is all good now because we don't know how the players will turn out that were drafted. You never know how a player will turn out. Look at Koonce and Crosby, they were late picks after all.
BoKnows81 » Thu May 02, 2024 2:44 pm
What do we have the fucking grammar police on here now? It's a sports talk forum dude. Relax.Xramfan wrote Thu May 02, 2024 2:06 pm:“I seen”?
Raider727 » Thu May 02, 2024 2:54 pm
I meant more in terms of giving it attention.MexicanHulk wrote Thu May 02, 2024 2:07 pm:I liked them when they were drafted. With them I actually had more confidence that they could fill the role sooner than later. After I watched more film of course. Cause I didn’t know them prior to being drafted.
With this draft, I’m saying, there should be more caution…more reservations that they could fill a more meaningful role…in the short term. Which means, they didn’t address those positions this year. & that’s how I took your comments of, “addressing”. Now if you’re talking about the future (2-3yrs from now), that’s a different discussion.
Attyla » Thu May 02, 2024 3:58 pm
the use of "on" was redundant due to the word "here" as both would be an identifier of location, on being the preposition of place. After the word "forum" a comma could be inserted for proper use of the kings English but has fallen into more optional usage in todays writing. The phrasing of the first sentence is structurally awkward. I might suggest "What do we have here (comma) the fucking grammar police now? That might fix the structural issues and increase both the brevity and the impact.BoKnows81 wrote Thu May 02, 2024 2:44 pm:What do we have the fucking grammar police on here now? It's a sports talk forum dude. Relax.
raiderjohn » Thu May 02, 2024 4:11 pm
Decamerion Richardson tall and fast. Al would be applauding this pick. 4.3 40, 6-2 close to 190. Poor man's Richard Sherman? There's one play where he sheds a future accountant to make the tackle. Good aggressive player. At best should be able to make the squad as the 6th corner and a special teams gunner.MexicanHulk » Thu May 02, 2024 5:10 pm
& yes, on a site, I “seen” it. Obviously, when typing you miss getting words in there. Are we all supposed to have an editor go thru all posts before submitting them? Anything else on your mind?Xramfan wrote Thu May 02, 2024 2:06 pm:“I seen”?
srv5490 » Thu May 02, 2024 6:40 pm
C'mon bro - you just ripped another member over his use of the word "addressed" and now you're butt hurt because someone pointed out your misuse of language? Don't be a hypocrite, or at least give it 24 hours so it's not glaringly obvious.MexicanHulk wrote Thu May 02, 2024 5:10 pm:& yes, on a site, I “seen” it. Obviously, when typing you miss getting words in there. Are we all supposed to have an editor go thru all posts before submitting them? Anything else on your mind?