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Raider727 » Fri May 03, 2024 6:14 am
next to his lava lamp.Amish Cabal wrote Fri May 03, 2024 6:10 am:LOL geez man I didn't mean to turn this into a bash AO session!
Our other QB is a stoner! I'd bet $5 he's got a bong collection in his van.
Amish Cabal » Fri May 03, 2024 6:15 am
Uh-huh.
Attyla » Fri May 03, 2024 6:17 am
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heavyD » Fri May 03, 2024 6:18 am
Mahomes has natural athletic ability though and has shown to be elusive against pros. AOC has proven to be a statue in the pocket in the pros and quickness and athleticism is clearly areas where he's lacking. When you are an underdog like AOC you need to work on anything that's in your control such as fitness and athleticism to get the absolute maximum. I don't expect him to look like a work out warrior but at the very least he shouldn't be carrying around excess fat.chucker wrote Fri May 03, 2024 6:11 am:I would hope that O'Connell is stronger and quicker but some guys don't ever look that fit even when they are. I think everyone saw the Mahomes dad bod images last year, and nobody catches that fucker from behind. Then there was that shitty LB that Gruden signed, Whitehead, who was sculpted from granite and he couldn't do a damn thing on a football field.
heavyD » Fri May 03, 2024 6:26 am
He doesn't carry extra weight. In fact he's on the lean side for a DE. There's a fine line with players like him where adding muscle bulk may reduce his quickness so that's less of a concern than a player that's carrying extra weight and is clearly slow.Dr Death wrote Fri May 03, 2024 6:23 am:Maxx doesn't look like the monster he is either.
Amish Cabal » Fri May 03, 2024 6:28 am
Tom Brady wasn't exactly a Greek god.chucker wrote Fri May 03, 2024 6:11 am:I would hope that O'Connell is stronger and quicker but some guys don't ever look that fit even when they are. I think everyone saw the Mahomes dad bod images last year, and nobody catches that fucker from behind. Then there was that shitty LB that Gruden signed, Whitehead, who was sculpted from granite and he couldn't do a damn thing on a football field.
chucker » Fri May 03, 2024 6:28 am
Yes but my point is that looking more athletic just doesn't really happen for everyone. And being more athletic starts with the legs. It's unlikely that O'Connell will ever gain much in that respect. I did find it disappointing that in a PC at the beginning of OTAs he talked about just getting started on a nutrition plan. That plan should have started before leaving the facility at the end of last season, not 3 months later in April.heavyD wrote Fri May 03, 2024 6:18 am:Mahomes has natural athletic ability though and has shown to be elusive against pros. AOC has proven to be a statue in the pocket in the pros and quickness and athleticism is clearly areas where he's lacking.
Attyla » Fri May 03, 2024 6:33 am
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Amish Cabal » Fri May 03, 2024 7:06 am
So will Aiden...Attyla wrote Fri May 03, 2024 6:33 am:https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/im ... 080849.png
He improved.
RunOverByHubbard » Fri May 03, 2024 7:37 am
I know. But the dude was already ripped so getting more carved or bulking up is probably less important than the cerebral parts of playing in the NFL and that includes drive, studying, learning, practice, etc. Getting stronger will help him when he plays the interior but I worry more about his instincts and motivation given what I saw in the field.Dark Horse wrote Thu May 02, 2024 4:09 pm:Okay, but we picked him and he can't show you anything until September
Opoponax50 » Fri May 03, 2024 7:55 am
Have you guys seen Mahomes without a shirt on? He pretty much looks like O'Connell.Dark Horse wrote Fri May 03, 2024 5:47 am:Mofo looks like he was on the lemon pepper wings and Hostess cupcake diet
raiderjohn » Fri May 03, 2024 8:00 am
Yup, big part of it is the processor between the ears. Carr had guns, but could not do a d@mn thing inside the 5.Opoponax50 wrote Fri May 03, 2024 7:55 am:Have you guys seen Mahomes without a shirt on? He pretty much looks like O'Connell.
Quarterbacks don't need to be ripped, and now that I think about it, the vast majority never have been.
Opoponax50 » Fri May 03, 2024 8:01 am
Well yeah. That was the idea last year; that he was still recovering and that it would take some time for him to fully recover and get up to speed with the NFL game. Also, he wasn't supposed to be starting last year until Whatshisface lost his mind.RunOverByHubbard wrote Fri May 03, 2024 7:37 am:I know. But the dude was already ripped so getting more carved or bulking up is probably less important than the cerebral parts of playing in the NFL and that includes drive, studying, learning, practice, etc. Getting stronger will help him when he plays the interior but I worry more about his instincts and motivation given what I saw in the field.
raiderjohn » Fri May 03, 2024 8:04 am
Wilson did a lot of interior pass rushing with Koonce and Maxx off the outside. If he can get some push up the middle, helps everyone out on defense.Opoponax50 wrote Fri May 03, 2024 8:01 am:Well yeah. That was the idea last year; that he was still recovering and that it would take some time for him to fully recover and get up to speed with the NFL game. Also, he wasn't supposed to be starting last year until Whatshisface lost his mind.
This year, it'll be much more reasonable to be critical of his performance if good progress isn't made pretty quickly. I'm also wondering if Koonce has really come into his own. If so, he could end up taking snaps away from Wilson.
I guess it's a good problem to have.